Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 29 October 2011, 08:08   #11
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Make: Redbay Boats
Length: 9m +
Engine: 370hp
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,926
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Flibble View Post
Wasn't there a lad that kayak'd out there a couple of years ago?
Yes, those fkkrs get everywhere But I think the flavour of the OP was not so much "is it possible" but "how would it be sensible".

I think that only those who have made a comparable trip with comparable equipment should encourage the OP to do likewise.

I note that the OP is asking about fuel consumption figures for his craft. Frankly, that alone suggests to me that he should "work up" to a trip like this. I don't mean to be rude, just getting concerned about the direction this thread is taking
__________________

__________________
willk is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2011, 10:04   #12
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Lancashire , Scotland
Boat name: TARKA
Make: Humber Destroyer
Length: 5m +
Engine: 3.3,75
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 196
Thankyou ALL for your comments / advice. I have read all of them

There seem to be 2 distinct camps here !!

The Can's and the Cant's

If the weather is favourable it Can be done ,I have to arrange a 2-3 week window, this is where I need advice on the best time of year , as previously said May , or Late August / Early September.(daylight is not an issue at these latitudes during summer months).

Also the weather would have to be near perfect or we would not go, and just wait it out.

I know a 5.5m Humber Rib is completely capable of the trip as one this size has crossed the Atlantic,and Many smaller have circumnavigated the UK Sucessfully !.

I am reasonably experienced 25yrs Boating and studied upto yachtmaster ocean, However most of my experience has been crew on larger 10 mtr "sail powered" vessel , mainly costal (Crinan up to Applecross) never in the exposed Atlantic.
I have only 250/300 hrs experience with a rib ,Arnamurchan, Mallaig and Skye , out into the Minch (Shiant Islands) , and quite a few hours around My home area Morcambe Bay(which can be pretty Nasty).

I feel I have the ability to make the passsage there and back safely
with careful planning and a lot of preperation.

I live in Lancashire so I have a 450mile trip just to get to Skye , which makes it awkward to do a recon trip.

This is why I am requesting extra info/ help from local people or people who have made this trip , as I do not know the area well enough.

Friends of ours own a campsite on skye so can stay there and leave tow vehicle and trailer there ,departing from Uig (Skye) using uist or harris as a stopover.

Are there any suitable moorings / campsites near the harbours there ?
I am aware of only toilets and showers at bernaray harbour, not sure about camping ?

We are planning on taking approx 130ltr fuel , Normal usage is burning less than 1 litre per mile @ 25knots (27mile to 22 litres), Is the normal usage around morcambe bay for us.(assuming 45ltr each way and 40 reserve), as there are a lot of posts about fuel usage.

Is fuel available to fil 30ltr portable Tanks at either Bernaray or Leverborough ?

we would prefer to go with other ribs Anyone else up for it ?
__________________

__________________
Alzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2011, 10:05   #13
RIBnet admin team
 
Poly's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 10,114
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk View Post
I note that the OP is asking about fuel consumption figures for his craft. Frankly, that alone suggests to me that he should "work up" to a trip like this. I don't mean to be rude, just getting concerned about the direction this thread is taking
I have to say i'm with Willk on this. Its certainly possible, with the right weather it might even be fun, but it is not a beginners trip.

Quote:
GJ0KYZ So long as the wx is ok I can't see a problem myself. It's only 40-50nm; at 30kts that will be under two hours at sea. We do 60-70nm round trips all the time here in the Channel Islands with boats that size so I'd just go for it if I were you.
I'm not suggesting the Channel Islands are a walk it park, but there are other boats around, alternative landing places if things get ugly, and if you do go somewhere 40 miles from your start point and decide not to come back due to the weather there will likely be some facilities at your destination.

Its also a bloomin long drive to get to your starting point. That means you'll have no reliable way of predicting the weather before you leave home, and so are less likely to find perfect conditions. If you happened to be in the right part of the country with the right kit and a good weather window then it might make sense, but its not really something you can "just go for".
__________________
Poly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2011, 10:51   #14
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: STORNOWAY
Make: HUMBER
Length: 6m +
Engine: 150 YAM HPDI
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 13
Ye there is fuel available in lochmaddy north uist and leverburgh in Harris, although fill every can you can before you leave due to cost!
The trip is definitely do-able! Might be available to come with you, I'm in a 6.5 Humber.
__________________
johnmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2011, 10:58   #15
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Make: Redbay Boats
Length: 9m +
Engine: 370hp
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,926
RIBase
Alzi, I upset you and that wasn't my intention. I didn't think that you had that kind of experience or qualification. Frankly, with those, you don't need to list kit or ask about fuel usage from us, you'll know already.

Obviously, there will be good advice about dates, fuel availability etc. from RIBnetters. I can't help with that.

Do put some thought into what plans you have if you have a terminal engine failure en route or end up in the water. I think your idea of a paired cruise is the best.
__________________
willk is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2011, 12:19   #16
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Lancashire , Scotland
Boat name: TARKA
Make: Humber Destroyer
Length: 5m +
Engine: 3.3,75
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 196
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk View Post
Alzi, I upset you and that wasn't my intention. I didn't think that you had that kind of experience or qualification.
Hi Willk , You haven't upset me at all ,

My original post was poorly written !

I am quite new to Ribs (If not to Sailing), and so there are LOTS of things I still dont Know, yes a lot is common sense , but advice from genuine experienced "Ribbers" is worth its weight in Gold ,There is no substitute for experience.

I would rather someone who knows say "thats wrong" , or go away and think about it ! .

Any advice / Suggestions is always welcome .

We might be looking into a bit of Advanced Powerboat Training here too.


Hi , "JOHNMACK"

Thanks for the Info, Most usefull Leverborough is looking favourite for leaving from , so far.

IF we do decide the trip is viable , Then Obviously "The More the Merrier", 2 or more ribs going would put a few peoples minds at ease.

Alan.
__________________
Alzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2011, 18:33   #17
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: North East Scotland
Boat name: Redbay 10
Make: Redbay
Length: 9m +
Engine: Twin Yam inb 165hp
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 62
we tried it earlier this year and failed....sat in north uist for a week waiting on the weather....
__________________
Scottish diver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2011, 19:47   #18
Member
 
spartacus's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 60hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,268
RIBase
On a clear day you can see St Kilda from Brenish (Isle of Lewis). This kind of trip shouldn't be under-estimated. I know it's probably within reach of a mid-sized RIB on a good day, however, this is the Atlantic, and it's rarely flat calm. I've fished around the entrance of Loch Roag for years and often wondered about a trip out there. You need a clear weather window for starters, and local knowledge.

For more information speak to Murray McLeod at Seatrek. He visits St Kilda during the summer and regularly does the trip, in either a 42' Interceptor, or 9.2m Delta. More details here: seatrek.co.uk - seatrek.co.uk

My brother and I were fishing at Gallan Head (near entrance to Loch Roag) in August this year. It wasn't that calm and the sea was inky black, probably around 10.30pm, but still enough light given the westerly location and time of year. (You have to head out this way if you're launching from Miavaig on route to St Kilda). A 6m+ Minke whale surfaced no more that 15 feet from the boat, blew air, then dived and carried on its way.


Kind of reminded me of how vulnerable we were in our boat.

" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350">
__________________
Is that with or without VAT?
spartacus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2011, 21:29   #19
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,962
I've done it three times, once as a lone trip in a sib, once with wife and friends and once myself and wife, all were single boat trips. Just be well prepared and choose your weather. Fuel at Lochmaddy but its a fair distance from Lochmaddy through the Sound of Harris so you need to allow for that fuel usage if leaving from there by your boat. Ferry cost is now very reasonable because of the road equivalence scheme. Look at the Calmac website for the summer timetable from Uig to Lochmaddy.
The pub is the Puff Inn and there is a campsite area (read field) on St Kilda. The end of the jetty stays wet, at least it did while I was there. officially you should desk permission to visit but I've never heard of anyone being turned away. Just land, seek out the warden, if he/she doesn't seek you first, as a courtesy. I wouldn't recommend September as a plan, the islands can be particularly stormy that month. If you are looking to see the islands at their best - they're always beautiful in some way - then end of June into July is best, the Machair will be properly in bloom by then. If you are towing to Uist rather than crossing the Minch from Skye, you can launch from a slip at the south end of the Berneray causeway and this will put you on the west side ready to exit to the sea. Shallow water at low tide between N Uist and Berneray, sandbanks. Exit between Udal and Boreray and St Kilda is just a couple of degrees off due west. Go for it, you'll remember it for the rest of your life.
__________________
JW.
jwalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 October 2011, 12:20   #20
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Lancashire , Scotland
Boat name: TARKA
Make: Humber Destroyer
Length: 5m +
Engine: 3.3,75
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 196
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottish diver View Post
we tried it earlier this year and failed....sat in north uist for a week waiting on the weather....
There are a worse places to be sat for a week !

Was this "April" as you had posted in another thread, I will be going later in the year.

Its now looking like June/July for us , definatly not as late as September (Hurricane Season) out towards the Americas and we always get their leftovers !.
__________________

__________________
Alzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:32.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.