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Old 04 November 2002, 10:54   #21
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Interesting thoughts coming out here:

1) I don't think anyone can blame a club, in this case BIBOA, for a lack of enthusiasm for any event. I have organised cruises before and have had two boats show up when there were 14 confirmed craft.

2)Unfortunately there are many time-wasters in our sport -Sibbers and Ribbers included here.

3)My suggestion whether it be a cruise, event, whatever, was primarily to spread the word (max coverage) as many sibbers etc do not frequent this forum.

4)As an idea, Keith and other sibbers. Many rib cruises venture into rocky inacessible places as this year's cruises have shown. Why not ask ribbers if you can go along and bring your sib for use as a tender or pottering around the shallows. Richard (Pepper) did this with his sib and I thought it was a marvellous idea. That way you get the best of both worlds.

5)Don't let your membership lapse - we need you!

6)Where were all the sibbers at the annual sib conference held in the Minquiers during August? Perfect sib country
You'll never never know, if you never never go!

7)Just because the name remains the same does not mean we boycott the club? It's the people, personalities, cruises and events that make the club - not the name!
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Old 04 November 2002, 12:36   #22
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Expedition Update

Hi folks

Gosh there has been a flurry of activity (mainly from Brian), so just to put things into perspective here are the plans so far.

As Brian has suggested the whole crossing is very weather dependant. What do we do if we all get up to the North Coast and find that the wind is not favourable? Do we just sit and wait? Do we have an alternative (plan B) expedition in mind?

I know the North of Scotland well and I can tell you that there are some great places for SIBs and RIBs up there, so even if the Pentland Firth was out of bounds for the SIBs there would be alternative adventures to be had. I would imagine that anyone going up for the expedition would be making a week of it in any case. So how about this then?

We set a definite week for the expedition to Orkney. Say Sunday to Sunday. We meet up at my house (Hilton of Cadbol) http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...=newsearch.srf
on the Sunday evening/afternoon, chill out a bit, discuss the expedition, check out the charts etc. eat, drink and stuff like that.

On the Monday we take the boats out together from Balintore and do a bit of a trial run into the Cromarty Firth or even just in the Moray Firth.

The next day, Tuesday, we set off for John O'Groats (JOG) to begin the expedition proper. Assuming the weather forecast is favourable that is. If not we take a run out somewhere else, Ullapool for example on the West Coast.

Anyway assuming that we make the Orkney run on the Tuesday we spend the night in Orkney where we eat (oh yes, I had to mention food again), drink and be merry.

The following day, Wednesday, we take the boats out around Scapa Flow, perhaps across to Hoy and South Walls. I can tell you that the little cemetery where the lifeboat crew from the 'Longhope Lifeboat Disaster' are buried is one of the most atmospheric places I have ever been to. We spend that night in Orkney again and, yes you've guessed it, we eat, drink and be merry.

On the Thursday we plan to travel back over the Pentland Firth. Right, so having got there with the SIBs what happens if the weather is not favourable to get them back to the mainland. Well we just stay there 'till it is! No, that's a joke. I have a cunning plan Baldrick. If, for example, David Manning and Mike Garside manage to come along as 'support boats', we deflate the SIBs and bung them into the big RIBs. Yes, it might take a couple of trips but I'm sure we could get the tiddlers back to the mainland that way.

We then make our way back to base (Hilton) where we (you are getting ahead of me here) eat, drink and be merry.

That will then leave Friday for any other day out people want or for travelling home again. So we have a couple of days at the beginning and end of the trip as a weather 'buffer'.

I can arrange B&B at a very reasonable cost at Base Camp Alpha (Hilton) and my pal Ian can look into the logistical support on the Orkney side (I haven't asked him yet, but he is down here (Birmingham, and he and his lads are staying with Marjory and me) for the 'Bike Show in a few days time and I will drop it on him then!).

I am up in Scotland for the New Year and as Brian (he's bloody good you know) has suggested I will take a trip up to JOG and do some recognisance (I hope the spell checker sorts that one out).

Brian has found a couple of good links re JOG and B&B for you to check out.

http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.u...s/johnogroats/

http://www.smoothhound.co.uk/johnogro.html

So who do we have interested so far .

Keith Hart - 3.4m SIB 15hp
Brian Elliott - 3.1m SIB 6hp
Matt Brown (Narked) - ? or crew member and ballast for Quicksilver if no one else is brave enough
David Manning - Avon Searider 5.4m 115hp Yamaha
Richard Bateson (Pepper) - 3.6 SIB 18hp
Mike Garside & Diana - 9m Ribtec
Natalie Hart - Expedition Photographer

Dates, obviously very important. August, but when, which week, any suggestions here please?

Right that's you lot up to date so far.

Cheers

Keith (Merry Man of Mey) Hart

PS You'll need to check out the charts for that one!
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Old 04 November 2002, 12:43   #23
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Sounds good to me Keith.

I'm definately alright for the week long thing, providing the others are. As for specific dates, I'm not fussed, as I'll be enjoying a nice long break then anyway after A levels.

So I'll either be in my own boat, or crew for anyone else. Hey, If I'm brave I could even bring my wetsuit up and do a bit of freediving in those lovely warm waters!

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Old 04 November 2002, 15:36   #24
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Well I won't be getting the Bombard Tropik. Been outbid and it's going beyond the amount of money I have now, so better to stop bidding . Plus the reserve price still hasn't been met, so it looks like it would have been beyond my budget anyway.

I'll keep looking on boatsandoutboards.co.uk, and obviously the for sale forum here (nice looking SIB package in there today, but sadly being a package it's beyond my reach), but it looks like it's going to be a while before I'm sorted with a boat.

Keith, all this activity and talk of the trip is already getting me excited. I might just have to order myself the charts for the area and practice my chart reading.

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Old 04 November 2002, 16:24   #25
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Matt

Good idea. Point your browser here:

http://www.chartsales.co.uk/system/index.html

They sell secondhand charts from 2.50! New ones are about 17.00 and you can get used charts that have been kept up to date for about 10.00.

You can now easily update your charts at:

http://www.nmwebsearch.com/

You will need the NW Europe Chart Catalogue NP109. Marine Chart Services (see 1st link) will probably send you one for FREE. Admiralty Chart 2581 covers 'our part' of the Pentland Firth at 1:26,000

Go get 'em. Go play at plotting. Go have loadsa fun. As Brian says 'there's a lot of fun in the planing'.

BTW Scapa Fow has LOADS of great diving sites onto various wrecks from the WW1 German Fleet that was scuppered there. Orkney is a great place. Matt you gotta feel sorry for those poor sods on the South Coast who go back and forth along The Solent all the time!

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Yeah I'm aware of the diving on offer up there. Any other qualified divers going up? Maybe we could have a dive or two while we're there!

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...sib for use as a tender or pottering around...
Don't forget that Andy & Jason Micklewright are now fully paid-up SIBsters! (Do you and Scott still have a SIB, Charles?)
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Old 04 November 2002, 17:11   #28
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Certainly do. I want my Scorpion back!!
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Old 04 November 2002, 17:30   #29
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If you decide to go for 17-24th I would be very interested. I shall be in Ardnamurchan until 17th and could head up the Great Glen to Hilton of Cadbol.
I want to come along to check all these launch sites that you have been send me Keith and make sure that they really do exist!

Keep me posted please.
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