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Old 09 January 2016, 13:39   #21
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RIB...SIB...JETSKI....KYAK..or TARDIS..
Surly it's a matter of conduct and (to a lesser extent) numbers that maters....???
Or are you in danger of becoming ...."SIBist"???

Hi Maximus..no..I genuinely donít mind who comes..however I am very careful about wild camping and know our access laws inside out.

Sometimes..landowners try to pull the wool over my eyes ..so I always carry a copy with me.

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Access rights extend to wild camping. This type of camping is lightweight, done in small numbers and only for two or three nights in any one place. You can camp in this way wherever access rights apply, but help to avoid causing problems for local people and land managers by not camping in enclosed fields of crops or farm animals and by keeping well away from buildings, roads or historic structures. Take extra care to avoid disturbing deer stalking or grouse shooting. If you wish to camp close to a house or building, seek the owner's permission. Leave no trace by:

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Sadly..we have already lost the access rights to wild camp around Loch Lomond..yup. due not only to boat campers..but also fishermen..and folks just looking for somewhere to have a party. ..making noise and leaving a mess.

Camping crackdown approved by Loch Lomond park board - BBC News

I do not wish to be involved in a party that will cause local residents grief and may eventually cause others to loose our hard fought access laws...whether that is Sibs Ribs ..or whatever ... I hope all can appreciate that as Im a regular wild camper in the area...as are some of my friends. Im certain Poly wont want us in bother with an angry landowner either ..
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Old 09 January 2016, 14:43   #22
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I've found that when wild camping around Scotland touring on my motorbike groups of up to 6 are generally acceptable.
When going with guys from work and there is more than 6 we tend to split in to smaller groups - even when going to campsites.
A large gathering of guys and noisy engines tend to strike fear into the heart of the locals.
No doubt wild camping won't be up everybody's street so probably manage a larger group out on the water with some preferring to return to mainland for a more lavish form of accommodation.
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Old 09 January 2016, 15:07   #23
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I've found that when wild camping around Scotland touring on my motorbike groups of up to 6 are generally acceptable.
When going with guys from work and there is more than 6 we tend to split in to smaller groups - even when going to campsites.
A large gathering of guys and noisy engines tend to strike fear into the heart of the locals.
No doubt wild camping won't be up everybody's street so probably manage a larger group out on the water with some preferring to return to mainland for a more lavish form of accommodation.
Agree Kaman..problem is..the Law is not clear what a small lightweight group is. Folk that are not keen on their land being used..will argue even six is too much..others dont bother..as long as you are not noisy or making a mess.

I do know the people of Millport will "stone you to death" if even a small party of two or three try to camp there..so its a no no for me at any time.

Bute folks..are very proud of their island..and rightly so.. I cant say for sure..but I think a group of nine or ten boats would annoy them..any you will be noticed ... as mentioned..its quite a well populated island.

I know other places where its less likely to cause agro..but Im not prepared to mention them on line..for hopefully ... obvious reasons.

Also ..a big group of fast boats going through the narrow Kyles ..it might be frowned upon too ? .. I believe it is a no wake zone for quite a distance..but hey..anyone who knows the area will know that..and may well know it better and say from experience ..its ok for twenty boats to go through there in convoy at 15knots ? I dont have that experience as I just go through it alone.

Its one of the problems with the popular Clyde..compared to more remote Easdale area..but Im looking forward to it..and only highlighting issues that may or may not be correct. Its not my shout either..Im just offering my thoughts. I honestly love big parties
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larger group out on the water with some preferring to return to mainland for a more lavish form of accommodation.
Yup..but that has its problems too..but not for me as I will be wild camping.

What problems you may ask ?

Ok..you have booked into a B&B in Tighnabruaich..Its a busy spot..so pre booked .. we set off from Largs..blows up..so we turn back..its a long drive to your accommodation. Hey..we might even have to cancel because of weather.. thats why SIBs and camping go well together.. you can be very flexible with the weather and conditions.

I guess have little more to add to my defence M'Lud ..so will leave the thread for the moment
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If I don't go for the whole sib it is the weekend they hold the Round Bute sailing race. It shouldn't get in your way too much,
Ah! Missed that one on my search, I checked various other events. However I think it is quite nice to watch the wafi's in the kyle narrows. Do you have a link to the sailing instructions etc, its probably better for their blood pressure if we avoid being at a key mark at the critical time.
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We will be aiming to avoid upsetting anyone and probably camping out of sight of others. If we get too many boats we will split up...

There's nothing to stop a group of ribs organising their own trip any time, or even at the same time. They'll be more flexible on route and weather etc.
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I thought it was so you could show off what a hard boat could do and convince all these guys with there overgrown innertubes with an engine strapped to the back to switch to poly-boats? This year has been the first year I've seen them discussed in ernest since your marketing trip...
You've misunderstood what sib gathering is like. Nobody is promoting anything or bothered what craft you turn up in - so long as you have the same ethos.

Personally I've no great interest in promoting RBBs over other vessels as each have their pros and cons but will add thoughts if asked.
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Ah! Missed that one on my search, I checked various other events. However I think it is quite nice to watch the wafi's in the kyle narrows. Do you have a link to the sailing instructions etc, its probably better for their blood pressure if we avoid being at a key mark at the critical time.
Easily missed as they haven't released the date yet. Will post up when the flyer is done. Won't know too much till the day of the race as they don't even decide which way round they are going till race day.
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Easily missed as they haven't released the date yet.
In that case, the SIB gathering has dibs. WAFIs be warned!
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Personally I've no great interest in promoting RBBs over other vessels as each have their pros and cons but will add thoughts if asked.
I have just bought a Pioner 12 rigid boat as I need a different tender to get from my boathouse out to my mooring. I do have a sib, but it is so rocky with some pretty sharp rocks that I always feel I am going to ruin the sib, so wanted something that was a bit more resilient. Just wondered how it will go with a 5hp on it.
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