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Old 01 February 2011, 06:46   #231
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Yes.
It wasn't so much a comment on Honfleur, just understanding Wilk's perception of tidal marinas.

Edit: I reckon pressing on up the river on the afternoon of day 2 is worth a look, maybe not all the way to Rouen but a head start for day 3 has to be a good thing? Though the tidal Seine looks a bit sparse when it comes to places to rest up.
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It wasn't so much a comment on Honfleur, just understanding Wilk's perception of tidal marinas.
Yes but it is a right pain in the bum. Especially when we got the boat stuck at Paimpol inside the lock and all the tenting stuff and clothes were on Brehat 5 miles offshore .

That's also why I like bumbling around inland in the cadet
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I reckon pressing on up the river on the afternoon of day 2 is worth a look, maybe not all the way to Rouen but a head start for day 3 has to be a good thing? Though the tidal Seine looks a bit sparse when it comes to places to rest up.
I was hoping this would be a relaxing venture not a military exercise with a strict regime to keep to. If the going is good, then that'll be fine, but I don't want to be helming for long stretches for 3 or 4 days solid, and I know my 'navigator' will be quick to complain if we're in the boat for long periods.

Just a thought, but would it be better to go up the Seine against the tide? That way we might manage planing speeds through the water but still be below the speed limit over the ground. May also help Matt's fuel economy and probably be better for me than displacement speed.
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I was hoping this would be a relaxing venture not a military exercise with a strict regime to keep to.
Planning is priceless, the plans are worthless.

Nothing military about looking at where to kip for the night!

I don't mind either way, but it would be shame to go all that way and end up short on time in Paris. The number of miles divided by the days allowed make this quite a major "trek", or have you completed that helicopter attachment?
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I don't want to be helming for long stretches for 3 or 4 days solid,.
I was hoping to get it done in short time but we have to be realistic with the itinerary, if we make a timetable that we can't stick to then it's going to end up a mess. The tidal Seine has to be done in a day, no question. There's nowhere to stop for the night and it's going to take 5-6 hours by all accounts.

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Just a thought, but would it be better to go up the Seine against the tide?
I see your logic but it wouldn't help, not me anyway. I'm using less fuel per mile at 10kts than at 30 although 15 is better than 10.

I was going to suggest we meet up for a pint this weekend and see if we can firm things up a bit. Mart - we'll let you know what we decide

I could've sworn I posted this last night but it was late, maybe I was dreaming I bought a couple of MBM articles on Paris and the Seine, they're available to download on my paris page.
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Just a thought, but would it be better to go up the Seine against the tide? That way we might manage planing speeds through the water but still be below the speed limit over the ground. May also help Matt's fuel economy and probably be better for me than displacement speed.
Try re-reading Post 52!
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Try re-reading Post 52!
I have to admit, wherever it was that I read that the speed limit was 28 km/hr through the water, I can't actually find it now, might have to put that down to late nights as well
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These regulations indicate that the limits are "par rapport la rive" ie speed over the ground:

http://www.sn-seine.developpement-du..._cle5491ae.pdf
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I think you'll find it references speed through the water in the Fluviacarte book, but I'm pretty certain this I because it is written primarily for slow/sailing boats where if they didn't have the tide with them they'd be going backwards. The French article on Cap Breizh implies SOG.
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Fine by moi.
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These regulations indicate that the limits are "par rapport la rive" ie speed over the ground:

http://www.sn-seine.developpement-du..._cle5491ae.pdf
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