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Old 16 October 2013, 13:19   #431
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Never use my compass! If I want to stay on a true course I program the waypoints in to the chart plotter and then use the "road" screen or by chart and digital compass contained within the plotter to navigate. Just a few notes from the trip. Gecko...Love it! Seal Skin Gloves...Wet hands and slippy on stainless. Kept hands warm though. 2 piece Floatation suit...Wet Wet Wet, kept me warm though. Need some boots for future adventures.
Do you not like Fancy dry suit then, we have been out in some wet weather round Anglesey and have been bone dry all day.
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Old 16 October 2013, 15:00   #432
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Have to say that if I used our rib more than once a year, a dry suit would be a must...
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Old 16 October 2013, 15:04   #433
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+1, IMHO the best I could get from a compass on a RIB in those conditions , is that I'm heading generally in the right direction.
Exactly!... when its (Proper) Knarley i.e 6m+ Beam sea's dumping you off course on each Rise...its all you want!!..In the conditions we had... Being off course a little (Not making exact landfall) on a longish out of site of land Passage is of no real consequence.
Keeping the Boat even and SAFE i.e..watching the next set and deciding on tactics most definatley IS!
We were going from displacement-to WOT in seconds, (Hole shot is Paramount!) to get up and over some very steep stuff, against the wind..and VERY glad of all the 250 horses!....for over 4hrs.The idea of a Chart or even naving on a plotter is a Joke!...You adapt and overcome!!!...Or DONT!
As to checking the compass I do it every time....Taking a Compass Bearing on the Plotter..i.e Plotted course BEFOR!! you hit the rough Stuff!..
THAT way, even if the Copass is not 100% accurate (very few are!) any discrepancy is factored in.
Then if you do for any reason loose the Plotter...the Compass will get you SAFE!...Pluss its simple to do a reciprical bearing to get home.
To re-cap. No we didn't carry Paper Charts...not needed.
We did carry a Very Comprehensive Passage Plan including Tidal Ranges..and Streams.. Compass Bearings and courses.ect ect... All provided on 3x A4 Sheets and fully laminated by Avocett
We Both had spare Hanheld VHF's.
PLB.. Flares.. Throw Ropes ect .
I would also agree with Wilk about a BIG....WELL DAMPED COMPASS...I would repeat it needs to be in your line of sight for best results!..I have an Offshore 105 Plastimo...highly reccomened!
As to Vision... I purposely lowered my Consul when I specd my Boat (see original thread) so I can see over the consul rail when semi-seated on the Ulmanns...(they do sit quite high).Realy worth doing!
Also I'd definitely say The Rain Off absolutely works for me!..I put it on my screen and Visor..(a tip)...if its realy Rough,put it on the inside of the Visor too! It did wear off after a few Hours though.
With an Experienced Capable Boater (Avocett) in another well founded/spec'd Boat (RC750)
in our two boat Flotilla....all we had to do was enjoy the Ride!! and an extra night in France!...Oh and the Wives enjoyed it too!!
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Have to say that if I used our rib more than once a year, a dry suit would be a must...
Save a Few Quid there then P
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and an extra night in France!...Oh and the Wives enjoyed it too!!
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Old 16 October 2013, 16:18   #436
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Do you not like Fancy dry suit then, we have been out in some wet weather round Anglesey and have been bone dry all day.
I used to have one. Still might somewhere in the garage but the cuffs and neck seals had gone and was looking scruffy too. Might have to dig it out one day.
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Exactly!... when its (Proper) Knarley i.e 6m+ Beam sea's dumping you off course on each Rise...its all you want!!..In the conditions we had... Being off course a little (Not making exact landfall) on a longish out of site of land Passage is of no real consequence.
Keeping the Boat even and SAFE i.e..watching the next set and deciding on tactics most definatley IS!
We were going from displacement-to WOT in seconds, (Hole shot is Paramount!) to get up and over some very steep stuff, against the wind..and VERY glad of all the 250 horses!....for over 4hrs.The idea of a Chart or even naving on a plotter is a Joke!...You adapt and overcome!!!...Or DONT!
As to checking the compass I do it every time....Taking a Compass Bearing on the Plotter..i.e Plotted course BEFOR!! you hit the rough Stuff!..
THAT way, even if the Copass is not 100% accurate (very few are!) any discrepancy is factored in.
Then if you do for any reason loose the Plotter...the Compass will get you SAFE!...Pluss its simple to do a reciprical bearing to get home.
To re-cap. No we didn't carry Paper Charts...not needed.
We did carry a Very Comprehensive Passage Plan including Tidal Ranges..and Streams.. Compass Bearings and courses.ect ect... All provided on 3x A4 Sheets and fully laminated by Avocett
We Both had spare Hanheld VHF's.
PLB.. Flares.. Throw Ropes ect .
I would also agree with Wilk about a BIG....WELL DAMPED COMPASS...I would repeat it needs to be in your line of sight for best results!..I have an Offshore 105 Plastimo...highly reccomened!
As to Vision... I purposely lowered my Consul when I specd my Boat (see original thread) so I can see over the consul rail when semi-seated on the Ulmanns...(they do sit quite high).Realy worth doing!
Also I'd definitely say The Rain Off absolutely works for me!..I put it on my screen and Visor..(a tip)...if its realy Rough,put it on the inside of the Visor too! It did wear off after a few Hours though.
With an Experienced Capable Boater (Avocett) in another well founded/spec'd Boat (RC750)
in our two boat Flotilla....all we had to do was enjoy the Ride!! and an extra night in France!...Oh and the Wives enjoyed it too!!
Sounds like u ad a ball Looey
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Drysuits: I don't wear one (well, sometimes my scuba drysuit), I wear a Fladen floatation suit. If it's properly rainy, the Fladen and I get soaked.
On the way across to Cherbourg I used my 7 year old Fladen 2-piece flotation suit (cost about £80) - it's still waterproof and would have kept me dry if we hadn't taken a wave such that the water went straight down my neck. As per Hightower, if anything it was too warm! For anyone thinking of what to buy for their 1st waterproofs I can't recommend them enough. fantastic value for money.
On the way back I used my Helly Hansen Ocean Drysuit (cost about £600) - it kept me dry but not as warm, and is certainly more hassle to get on and off - and taking a comfort break in choppy conditions in a drysuit is almost impossible!
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Trevor G - my Fladen is a onesie (pitseáma aonphíosa) from 2008. I've never been cold in it (often too warm) but regularly soaked. It was the best £66 I ever spent. That said, I refuse to oversell it. It is absolutely perfect for farting about in boats, deals with cold, showers and splashes with aplomb. What it can't handle is prolonged rain or heavy splashing. It REALLY can't handle a heavy splash. If sitting in wet conditions, I will be soaked in minutes. I think the water enters via seams, zips, etc. I accept this as a £66 suit thing. However, for long distance cruising in poor conditions, I'd prefer a good self don dry suit with lots of pockets and flaps and a decent "con zip", for quick piddles.

A note to light drysuit users - you CAN wear a raincoat/jacket over the top.
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Trevor G - my Fladen is a onesie (pitseáma aonphíosa) from 2008. I've never been cold in it (often too warm) but regularly soaked. It was the best £66 I ever spent. That said, I refuse to oversell it. It is absolutely perfect for farting about in boats, deals with cold, showers and splashes with aplomb. What it can't handle is prolonged rain or heavy splashing. It REALLY can't handle a heavy splash. If sitting in wet conditions, I will be soaked in minutes. I think the water enters via seams, zips, etc. I accept this as a £66 suit thing. However, for long distance cruising in poor conditions, I'd prefer a good self don dry suit with lots of pockets and flaps and a decent "con zip", for quick piddles.
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Maybe it's a onesie thing regarding waterproofness! We also have one piece "breathable" MarinePool floatation suits for Mrs G and the kids - and they too also leak in very wet weather - whilst the two piece Fladen seems to be much more water proof. Maybe because the salopet trousers give you an extra layer on the front? I've not as yet had any problems with the water coming through the suit - just down any gaps left exposed.
That said - for summer wear the Fladen is just too warm!

If I were out on my own in rubbish weather - like you I'd prefer to have a good drysuit on - but it's taken me 7 years to swallow the cost!
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