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Old 09 June 2013, 05:29   #51
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Think youll find its 2 days on, finishing at 8pm then start the night shift the following day at 8pm, so in effect 24 hours between finishing the day shift and starting the night shift. All followed by 4 days off
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Old 09 June 2013, 05:29   #52
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Back home now after a very informative day We had a presentation followed by emergency and radio room tour.

We were asked to pass on what we had been told so the top things I took away were:

1, In an emergency use your red DSC button (if you have one) before making your voice call. This gives the CG a lot of info and also alerts other vessels in your area to listen into your transmission on CH16.

2, When making an emergency call on Ch16 make sure you use the correct call either panpan or mayday. This tells other vessels to stay off CH16 and also helps the CG to categorise your transmission.

3, CH16 can get busy in the high season with radio checks, they advised that there are other ways of doing a radio check such as using your handheld or another boat.

4, Make sure that your mic button is working and does not stick on and also an object can't fall on the transmission button, we were told about a husband and wife who had an argument for 40 mins about a dripping tap at home and this transmitted on CH16 jamming the channel. In the end the CG helicopter had to fly to their position to tell them! If your mic button gets stuck one of the radio operators has to listen to the call very closely incase any information comes through, the lady operator said it's like listening to white noise for as long as it takes for the transmission to stop.

5, Every call on every channel is recorded and stored for 6 months! while emergency transmissions can be kept for 6 years.

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I did my SRC course last week and having seen similar discussions on here about radio checks on Channel 16 I asked the instructor about this. He was pretty clear that radio checks should only be requested on Channel 67 (or Marina channels). Is this a relatively recent change to the process as it seems not everyone is aware of it??
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I did my SRC course last week and having seen similar discussions on here about radio checks on Channel 16 I asked the instructor about this. He was pretty clear that radio checks should only be requested on Channel 67 (or Marina channels). Is this a relatively recent change to the process as it seems not everyone is aware of it??
Think its only a Solent CG request that Checks are done on 67 due to high radio traffic in the area. Everywhere else still 16 I believe.
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They said that about 40% of the UK's boating is done in the solent so this is probably why they have started to request this on 16 after you have completed your check

They also said that some use a radio check on 16 as a way of announcing that they are out on the water to their friends who also monitor 16 so after a radio check their mates call up on 16 and say move to channel ?? so they can have a chat.

This is the sort of thing the blocks the emergency channel

They said that some radio check on 16 every day
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They said that about 40% of the UK's boating is done in the solent so this is probably why they have started to request this on 16 after you have completed your check

They also said that some use a radio check on 16 as a way of announcing that they are out on the water to their friends who also monitor 16 so after a radio check their mates call up on 16 and say move to channel ?? so they can have a chat.

This is the sort of thing the blocks the emergency channel

They said that some radio check on 16 every day
I guess it'll be a while before everyone has DSC equipped radio.
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Think its only a Solent CG request that Checks are done on 67 due to high radio traffic in the area. Everywhere else still 16 I believe.
Yup - that's what I heard at the visit as well.

I think it's only the Solent that keeps a listening watch on 67 as well as 16. The other areas ask you to call on 16 asking for a radio check in the call, and will move you to 67 or 63 (or whatever their area's working channel is) if needed.

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Yup - that's what I heard at the visit as well.

I think it's only the Solent that keeps a listening watch on 67 as well as 16. The other areas ask you to call on 16 asking for a radio check in the call, and will move you to 67 or 63 (or whatever their area's working channel is) if needed.

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I finished that course pretty sure of the process for radio checks but now it's as clear as mud if Solent isn't the nearest CG, mine would be London or Dover.

The instructor was from Portsmouth so that would explain his interpretation as the Solent is his local area, but surely there should be a consistent approach whoever is teaching the course. His opinion is if it's not urgent keep 16 clear, which seemed logical.
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Say hello from me - I worked there as a deputy watch manager and SMC a couple of years ago... they are all top men and women. It may be possible to arrange a bolt on visit to the flight aswell - chances increase if you take along some biscuits or donuts for the athletic but hungry watch keepers!

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Oh and by the way - all MRCCs monitor 67 and use it as the primary working frequency. Solent is unique in that there is an extreme concentration of pleasure craft users and "sunday boaters"... My years at Humber, we did very few radio checks. Commercial vessels, fishing vessels and the offshore industry don't do radio checks with the coastguard, but they are hugely popular in the solent. I believe it is self perpetuating. There are lots of beginner boaters on the water in the solent, and I suppose they hear others doing radio checks with solent, and assume they should do the same themselves. I never minded issuing radio checks tbh, as for the most part they are simple to respond to, and it is good that people have the confidence to call up - but perhaps it is worth remembering the alternatives, and ask yourself why you are calling. One call from you might encourage 10 newbies to do the same... For some reason nobody ever calls southampton VTS for a radio check....!
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Eh!

Don't get me wrong am very grateful that the CG is there, but what I am detecting from the las part of your your post is ' i'm kinda official and we don't want it to happen!' Are you saying the Coastguard don't want to hear Radiochecks, cos they are going to be hearing mine on 67 until it becomes Illegal. and fkk em if they don't like it as I'd rather they were inconvenienced than I was 20 miles out, in trouble, and my radio only worked for a short range.

If the Solent is so busy why don't they have YOPS in to manage the radiochecks. I'm sure there's no end of decent articulate teenagers and unemployed people who would jump at the chance of doing something useful for tea and biscuits. It's gotta beat stacking shelves at Tesco's for work experience
and it would not look at all bad on their job seeking CV's


Call me old fashioned but I really thought it would be better that 10 newbies were encouraged to play safely than not bother doing Coast Guard radio checks.

'Perhaps if it's a strain and should encourage DSC Checks by urging the salesman of new radios to demonstrate how to do a DSC radio check to the customerin the shop, or publish a chart of how to do it if the unit is mail order

I work in the Offshore Industry as a boat driver and I agree there not much point doing a radio check with the CG when you are in the Schehallion field however we have a radiocheck matrix that we go through prior to launch so that we know we have comms prior to launch coz its important for safety

I think it fair to say that other commercial vessels and shipping have enough routine radio traffic between themselves and VTS before leaving port that a Radio check becomes superflous.
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