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Old 07 November 2002, 06:15   #11
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The other angle Manos would be to fly out to Greece and charter a RIB out there. Is that something you could facilitate with your contacts?
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Old 07 November 2002, 07:35   #12
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That is another good idea. However, as far as I know there is only one compnay that provides that service 'MOSTRO' and is VERY expenssive.
I had a look last summer for a friend from the UK and for say a 5 mtr RIB (VERY BASIC with 100 ltrts fuel a 75 bhp Merc o/b) they wanted something like Euros 200-300/day.
I think they just hire RIBs to Motor Yachts rather than to individuals.

THIS IS FOR ALL
Please bare in mind that in Greece sailing with any type of craft is very controlled by the National Coast Guard. You need certain life saving equipment o/b depending how far from the shore one will be, life raft (not the type we know in the UK costs Euro 50), aux engine, 2 anchors, lots and lots of ropes life jackets, etc etc similar to what we carry o/b in the UK.
I will give you a list if any one is interested.

However, since I'll be in Greece in a few days I will make some inquiries. You never know something may have changed.
Will let you know.
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Old 07 November 2002, 08:26   #13
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If you want to have a look @ the places in Greece

If you want to have a look @ the places in Greece there are lots and lots of photos @ this link

http://www.mattbarrett.net/photos/
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Guys...

Like I said before. Sailing in Greece is a h.... of experience.

Remember the SOC when she sailed south of Crete ? It was one of the few times when the crew ENJOYED cruising.
I' m in. Maybe not for all the time, but I'll be there.

Sailing all the way to Greece though, is out of question. I know a guy who made this trip the other way around. Don't know the exact route he followed, but I'm sure that he used a river network to reach the notrh coast of France. Then he crossed the English chanell and participated to some races there, taking good places. Any way it's a VERY EXPENSIVE journey.

The idea of renting a rib in Greece is not so good either, as there aren't more than one or two renting companies and I'm sure that they charge multi figure numbers. Not mentioning that you won't have YOUR rib in the photos.

I sure don't have Manos experience on this, but I am confident that HIS way is the best.

If you make this trip DON'T FORGET to take many photos of the convoy crossing the Alpes.

Manos said that he will be in Greece for 2 or 3 weeks. LET'S HOPE he has this Canon in his bags, OR I 'LL BE VERY DISAPOINTED.
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Old 07 November 2002, 12:18   #15
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Please bare in mind that in Greece sailing with any type of craft is very controlled by the National Coast Guard
Surely this doesn't apply to visiting foreign flagged boats does it?

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Old 07 November 2002, 16:46   #17
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Hi John

State rules do apply to all vessels (Greek Coast Guard is the equivalent of MSA-Marine safety Agency- in the UK and they also police the Greek teritorial waters. If one is found to be way out of line they can arrest and procecute). Fines are quite high if one does not obey the rules.
My RIB in Greece is under British flag/registry and is stipulated in shipping law (Carriage of Goods by Sea Act 1971) that a vessel being in a foreign country (i.e. not the country of its registry) should at all times obey and obide by the rules/laws and regulations of that country she is visiting.
In any case the rules for small craft in Greece are quite sensible and I don't think that they are any different to what any one who respects the sea environment wouldn't do.
i.e. we all have VHFs and VHF licence, have insurance, carry life jackets, have 2 anchors, have a floating anchor, have ropes, fly the sate flag, have an ICC, have an aux engine, have flares, have the boat papers with us etc etc.
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The Greek coastguards have some pretty butch Ribs. If I remember correctly they are 8 metre Oceans with a couple of Merc 250's on the back.

If we are all going overland we may well get a sizeable discount if we booked our ferrytickets as one group.
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Good Morning WAVEHAMPER

The Greek Coastguard has now purchased some new 12 mtr Oceans with 2x500 bhp doing 70+ knots. Will postr photos next week sometime.
If we dcecide that we are definately going overland we definately ask for discounts from Ferries, Eurotunnel, hotels etc.
But let us see 1st who wants to come.
Any short of definate entries.
By the way we can discuss dates if Sept is not good for all. But in my opinion is the quite month, low season so cheap tickets, kids at school, most tourists have gone back to work, and also one finds completely empty beaches Weather is hot 30-35 dec C and wind may vary. Usually in the Aegean is Meltemi time however, last summer Aegean was like a pond with the occasional NNE meltemi winds. Last Sept was THE BEST MONTH.
Also June to mid July is good same situation as above with meltemi not in the force and calm seas.
Have a think about.

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW: Meltemi is a NNE wind force 4 up to force 6+ (sea state wavy 0.50-1.50 mtrs max) that starts usually from beg/mid August and carries through beg/mid Sept.
Currently this patern has changed to Meltemi starting mid July and ending mid/end Aug. The wind picks up at about 9-10 am and dies down at about 5-6 pm.

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OLYMPIC MARINA

Olympic Marina is located 2.5 kms from Lavrion and 2.5 kms from Sounion.
I have a meeting with the owners to discuss if we can get a discount if any of you who decide to visit Greece want to have the RIBS in the marina.
There are shops not only in the marina but also in the village of all shorts.
If you need repairs there in the village thare are a Yamaha and a Merc authorised repair work shops, 3 ship chandlers, fibre glass repair work shop, 3 pontoon reair work shops.
There also plenty of Tavernas, bars and you are only 60 kms away from Athens if you fancy a visit.
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