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Old 04 November 2003, 06:12   #11
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Exciting crossing. Does this mean you have finally selected your new rib or is it going to be a Scorpion
Whichever congratulations on your purchase?

Have you decided on the port of departure?

Andre
The Scorpionguys are working full time trying to find a better slottime for the delivery. And I will let them do that a little bit more to see what they can come up with.
About the trip:
I have found a very good navigator and he is more than willing to take the trip. We have to see what we can do, but the first plan is to test the boat for two days where we pick it up, have a service taken and then have the boat sent by car up to some place north of U.K.
We will then go to Bergen and finally up to my hometown, Trondheim.



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Old 04 November 2003, 06:25   #12
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Long way with two big petrol engines! Whats the fuel capacity of the boat intended to be?
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Old 05 November 2003, 12:36   #13
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The gastanks are initially 100 gallon. I have two extra gastanks at home. they are 15 gallon each.
I have not looked too closely, but it is probably 300 miles from the tip of U.K. to Bergen.
If we use 1.5l per mile pr. engine, it will be 900 liter!
We havent made any decition yet, but we might order larger gastank. The disadvantage with larger tank is that the weight will move more backward the larger the tank is and the difference will be huge between full and 1/4 tank if the tank is very big.
We have to make more thinking here.
Two tanks, pump in between etc.!
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Old 05 November 2003, 13:05   #14
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It`s around 319 nautical miles to Bergen from aberdeen.
This mean that if you have a average speed of say 40 knots and a fuel consumption of 1,5 liters PER engine wich means 3 liters per nautical mile is 957 liters.
Looks tight if you don`t install bigger tanks and have some extra fuel with you.
Check also how many percent oil the engines take, say around 1-2 percent depending on brand of engines.
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Old 05 November 2003, 14:12   #15
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Thank you Petrov! If it hadnt been for you, I would still be paddling this time year next year!

Alan, an other solution Petrov came up with on the phone is to go to Shetland to tank there first.
Maybe it is possible to get a deal with an oilrig, and refil there? We still have 6 months to find out something. This is something we defenately want to do, so I am sure we will come up with something.
We will be very happy for any good sugestion.
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Old 05 November 2003, 15:58   #16
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It`s around 319 nautical miles to Bergen from aberdeen.
This mean that if you have a average speed of say 40 knots and a fuel consumption of 1,5 liters PER engine wich means 3 liters per nautical mile is 957 liters.
Looks tight if you don`t install bigger tanks and have some extra fuel with you.
Check also how many percent oil the engines take, say around 1-2 percent depending on brand of engines.
Don't leave from Aberdeen, it's not such a good place for pleasure boats. Use Peterhead. This will be my departure point for the future. The crossing from Shetland is about 200mls, but Shetland is a long way in the first place.
However, 200mls@40mph = 5 hours. Leave at shetland at 9am, arrive at 2pm. Sounds easy, doesn't it.
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Old 06 November 2003, 04:46   #17
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Errmmm

If you are going for twin engines for safety as well as performance then wouldnt the sensible approach to have two fuel tanks (and twin electrics for that matter) so that bad fuel in a common tank doesn't kill both your engines?

For your trip home (which sounds great fun by the way) you are going to have to stage via Shetlands I'dve thought. Can't see how you could carry enough fuel to do it in one hit. 317nm @3l per mile + 30% reserve = 1240 litres!! Your 100 gallon tank gives you 450 odd (although probably not all usable) so thats a hell of a lot of deck tanks needed. No smoking on board I trust!

Also I assume you are not going to calculate passage times, fuel consumption etc assuming 40kts as cruise speed? It'd have to be a very calm day to acheive that and I suspect very calm days are in short supply in that area! A cruising speed of 25kts might be more conservative.

Agree with JW about Peterhead. Found the people there very friendly when we stopped there on RB4. Not sure that Peterhead or even anywhere in Shetlands offers petrol alongside though. (Keith Hart can probably advise about Shetlands.) Dont want to think about refuelling the quantities that you will need by can from the local garage though!
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Hmmm. Sounds to me that what you really, really need is a single, diesel engined Scorpion Sportscruiser that can do that trip comfortably (and in some comfort).
It just so happens that I know of one for sale at the moment.................
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More seriously though...................
I fully support your planned trip across to Norway.
The sort of trip I would like to do myself, if only I had the time, but.......
apart from the cost of petrol, which may not influence you, have you considered it's availability?
Out in the middle of the North Sea, I can image that an oilrig, a supply boat, the odd trawler or two, may well be able to part with some diesel. But petrol? Hmmm, more doubtful, I think.
Still, nevermind, I am sure you will be thinking of your forebears and taking along several long oars and some big bedsheets.
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