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Old 25 July 2003, 20:13   #131
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Charles or Dom,

Leaving the departure to one side for now, I've just received word from my insurance Company that they would not be prepared to insure my boat if I left it at anchor. This means that I would have to leave it overnight in a harbour. I'm proposing therefore to leave it in St Peter Port on the pontoons just outside Victoria Marina.
In which case….. would there be suitable numbers of willing ribsters who ARE anchoring at Herm, to give me and crew a lift to the Island and back? In fact, talking around, I don't think mine will be the only boat needing to do this. Views appreciated

This favour could of course be exchanged for copious quantities of beer!


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Old 25 July 2003, 22:16   #132
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Err Mike C,

If i am using "Spud" I won't have any problems with mooring overnight. But if I have "Midnight Express" by then I will be defiantely stopping over in st Peter Port even if it means sibbing over!

But if using Spud I'd happily take you back to herm for the whole 10 min trip it is

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Old 25 July 2003, 22:17   #133
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Highs and lows in Guernsey, times are BST so no need to add an hour

29th august

high tides 08.39 (9.2) and 20.52 (9.6)
low tides 01.15 (1.0) and 14.56 (1.0) Herm will be v dry

30th august

high tides 09.17 (9.4) and 21.29 (9.6)
low tides 3.18 (0.9) and 15.34 (1.0) Herm will be v dry

31 august

high tides 09.53 (9.3) and 22.06 (9.4)
low tides 03.55 (0.9) and 16.11 (1.1) Herm will be v dry

Perfect for keeping your boat in SPP and colecting in the morning and dropping off at night. you can also refuel when you pick your boat up. If I am up and about I will do a ferry service but not promising anything yet, I will wait until that weekend to sort it.

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Old 26 July 2003, 05:45   #134
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Many Thanks.....

I'm sure we'll sort something! I'll get back to worrying about deprture then...... which is also causing problems due to spring low waters! All part of the fun!


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Old 26 July 2003, 07:39   #135
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WARNING TO ALL

The little Russell between SPP and Herm is not to be negotiated at low tide during this weekend, there are uncharted rocks in between on these very low tides that catch people out. Use the Musee passage and come around the back of Herm through the Russell.

If needs be I can talk to you all about this when you get here for the first timers. Charles will know what i am talking about.

Safe journey for everyone.

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Old 26 July 2003, 08:02   #136
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Dom,

Do you mean the whole of Little Russel is best avoided at low water?
.....i.e, if we happen to arrive at Platte Fougere from the UK at low water, we would be best to go up and over Platte Boue and down the East of Herm via Big Russell, then south of Muse into SPP....
Or is it just the final aproaches to Herm from Little Russel (via Vermerette) that you are talking about?
The reason I ask will become clear in my next post.... (which I haven't written yet)!

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Old 26 July 2003, 08:30   #137
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Written it now!…..

Charles…. I hope this doesn’t cause any problems with any plans you have for the Friday, but the tides are against us this side of the puddle!

Departure times from UK – For discussion!

There seems to be a desire among some to depart very early on Friday morning. 7am has been suggested. The reason for this I believe is so those wishing to re-fuel on arrival can do so before the water goes away from the re-fuelling point in SPP. By my maths, (and speed) that would have to be 7am at The Needles, and then no dawdling! (HW 08:39). That would mean for me, a 5:30 or 6am launch (from Lymington – by the time I’ve sorted parking out etc) …. which unfortunately co-insides with low water, (spring). The obvious answer is to launch the day before and as has already been aired, I know some people are planning to do this. Unfortunately, due to work and family commitments the day before, I can’t……. So, with low water problems and also since I don’t really fancy getting up at 03:30 to get there by 6 anyway, may I propose a suggestion?

I suspect, (well alright, hope!), that I may not be the only one with similar considerations,. So, how do we feel about a second wave of departures 3 hours later? I would then plan to leave home at 6am and be ready for an 8am or just after launch. This is 2 hours after low water and I hope possible at Lymington….. or wherever! Then after fuelling and parking I should be ready for a 9:30 or 10:00 AM getaway from The Needles. We stragglers can catch up with the rest in SPP, (or wherever) and re-fuel on the evening tide for those that need it. As it’s a rising tide, we can creep in past the bigger draught boats as soon as there is enough water…. and fill up first!

So, any takers for a second wave….. or on reflection would we all like a lie-in? Comments please!

NB – The only problem is we will then be arriving in the Channel Islands close to low water….. Tell us where to go Dom!

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Hello Mike and everyone else.

Please don't get alarmed unnecessarily. (Dom, I know you mean well but you are causing confusion and anxiety).

As Richard mentioned in an earlier post, full details and a round-up of all arrangements will be with you shortly via 'snail mail'.
Many people on the cruise do not frequent this site therefore arrangements cannot be made fully on Ribnet.
I suggested an early departure as I know what happens on these cruises - you say 7am and invariably it ends up 2 or even 3 hours later. Trust me- this always happens.

We have to bear in mind that this is a cruise, supposed to be for fun and enjoyment - not an anxious affair with all the associated conundrums. Lets look at the options - (help guys who live over there) Chichester, Southampton(Itchen) - basically any slip that can handle any tidal state. The departure can also be delayed for a couple of hours, no problem there.
The real confusion for me is that you say it is low water springs at 7am 29/08 - How can this be, we have high water springs at 08:32am?? Surely you have approximately a 2 hour window after high. If this is the case I will suggest a 9am departure.

Let me know what you all think.

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Old 26 July 2003, 09:42   #139
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My thoughts

I'll go with the flow. I am staying in Lymington overnight regardsless. Going early I take a bacon butty, going late I have a fry up for breakfast

With 180litres on board I should have plenty of fuel in reserve on arrival. Just thought it easier to fill up then as other petrol users may not have the reserve I do.

I thought we were going to meet up with Charles off Little Russel? and follow line astern using his excellent local knowledge to take us into SPP. I'm sure Charles would steer us clear of any local hazzards.

These things have a habit of running late and should we arrive and the water is to low we could instead go across to Herm allowing us all a good look at the Harbour / moorings at low tide. From photos I have seen there is a fair bit in the Harbour that drys out to sandy bottom with substantial mooring chains available. Thus those that require it would have a first hand view of the moorings available to us that dry out and those that don't.


With tide at low not sure we can get in and offload our luggage at Herm (is it not a half tide access) or wether we would have to wait till later . Anyway we would be there and could decide the rest of the activities for the day dependent on water and needs.
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Old 26 July 2003, 10:26   #140
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confusion for me is that you say it is low water springs at 7am 29/08
Yes, LW (springs) for Lymington is 0613 BST. You Channel Islanders hog all the water that morning!!

I'd be happier to keep to one departure time, whatever we agree on, to keep the flotilla together.
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