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Old 20 August 2003, 10:25   #201
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Not a Channel Islander but hey the River Servern is quite tidal

I have a simalar chain/anchor with about 30m of rope as standard with plenty of lengths of rope in the locker if longer is needed.

Also carry a smaller second anchor with 5m chain and about 20m rope.

If you have more rope on board you can always join them.

See you all Friday ( or Thursday for those staying over in Lymington)
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Old 20 August 2003, 11:02   #202
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That's more than adequate Richard - in fact it is exactly what I have.
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Old 20 August 2003, 11:54   #203
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Right as I havent anchored over night before what should I have roughly in terms of length.

My main anchor is a 5Kg folding bruce, with x amount of chain and lots of rope. I will measure it tonight. But for my 5.75mtr boat what would you recommend?

Also I have a 45mt (9mm dia) spool or line for anchor that is new and unused, was saving for a rainy day which I will use avec my secondary anchor. Which I have a choice of 2, a 3kg grapling hock style, or a alimunium flat anchor which came with the boat.
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Old 20 August 2003, 12:12   #204
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For a rope cable 6 times the depth is recommended. With a rope cable there should be 5 to 10 metres of chain attached to the anchor to provide weight to keep the shank of the anchor as close to the bottom as possible and to minimize chafe.
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Old 20 August 2003, 16:59   #205
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Oi, get your own ground tackle!

Seriously though, with your extreme tidal ranges, what length of anchor line do you Channel Islanders keep on board?
38 foot of chain and 30 foot of rope for a 26 foot boat. Only usually stick the 7.5kg bruce and chain and out with 2 meteres of rope max.

The trick is around here is not to force the anchor in but to throw the lot out and then let the tide tighten it all up which will give you a more secure anchoring than trying to yank the anchor into the sand then let the chain do the rest.

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Old 20 August 2003, 18:23   #206
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38 ft of chain. Thats a lot of chain for a 26 ft rib. 38ft of chain on board will sink most ribs

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Old 20 August 2003, 19:05   #207
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read the profile, sorry I am an imposter, I dont have a RIB and my boat is over 3.5 ton!

Yes alot of chain but you dont need that much just folllow my anchoring procedure tho.

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Old 20 August 2003, 22:40   #208
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Hi-De-Hi Campers!

A little while ago Mike C got his electronic charting into action and produced a route...

I've added a few intermediate waypoints, so here's they are:

Colwell:
N 050deg 41.80min W 001deg 33.40min

* Zero:
N 050deg 39.70min W 001deg 36.00min
(Needles)

10:
N 050deg 31.00min W 001deg 43.00min

20:
N 050deg 22.00min W 001deg 50.00min

30:
N 050deg 13.10min W 001deg 57.00min
(Approx mid channel)

40:
N 050deg 04.20min W 002deg 04.00min

50:
N 049deg 55.00min W 002deg 11.00min

* 56:
N 049deg 50.00min W 002deg 15.00min
(Turn to avoid TSS)

* 66:
N 049deg 45.00min W 002deg 28.22min
(Turn towards Platte Fougere and Guernsey)

* 80:
N 049deg 31.14min W 002deg 28.22min
(Meet Charles near Platte Fougere)

The *asterisks denote turning points, all the others are in a straight line. The numbers indicate approximate distance (in nautical miles) from the Needles.

I'll punch them into my plotter at the weekend (mine doesn't have any functionality off the boat). If anyone notices any mistakes, please let me know asap!

Later.
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Old 21 August 2003, 20:46   #209
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Bit of info.....

For those planning to be 'legal' for this trip, you can now download the C1331 Customs declaration form from the internet at..... http://www.hmce.gov.uk/forms/forms/c1331.pdf

As we are leaving the EU, these should be filled in and posted in a Customs Post Box, Part 1 before you leave and Part 2 after you return and have taken your yellow Q flag down.

More info at....
http://www.hmce.gov.uk/forms/notices/8.htm#P48_2055

Incidentally, The Channel Islands do not have any reciprocal free medical arrangements with the rest of the UK, (though some of it may be free), so if you're planning to get ill.... the Post Office charge £7 for 3 days travel insurance including £10,000,000 medical. May be worth it! The E111 forms will be no good as it aint in the EC!

Going to France is so much more simple.... but they use Euros!

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Old 21 August 2003, 22:05   #210
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well not being charged VAT and our cheap fuel means we have to cut costs

then again, our alcohol is almost your price!!!
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Old 21 August 2003, 22:13   #211
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£10,000,000 medical...
I reckon they'd write me off before signing off £10M on me!!

We have an annual policy from Norwich Union Direct. I asked if they'd cover RIB cruises.

"Uh?"

I then asked if they'd cover long excursions by motor boat. After a brief interlude to consult with the supervisor, the reply was "Yes, that's OK as long as it's not sailing"

OK - one policy sold to me!
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Old 21 August 2003, 22:38   #212
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"Yes, that's OK as long as it's not sailing"
I always thought all those bits of string were dangerous...

I agree though, an anual policy is much easier... That's what I've got too!

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Old 21 August 2003, 22:42   #213
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As we are from the land of Guiness, Leprachons and all things green is there a need for the good old passport

I suppose Richard may need a translator also on board to understand us

I bet bet thats not in you kit


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Old 21 August 2003, 22:47   #214
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If I remember correctly, all visitors to the Channel Islands need a passport (Charles??)

They're a very fussy lot!

Mind you, having been there (and France) a couple of times by RIB, you never seem to do through any checks at all.
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Old 21 August 2003, 22:51   #215
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I suppose Richard may need a translator also on board to understand us

I bet bet thats not in you kit
Funny you should say that...

Actually I work with another Dubliner (you are a Dubliner, aren't you?) - maybe I could try to pick up a few useful phrases over next week
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If you don't take your passport, they'll ask for it. If you do take it, you won't need it.
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Old 22 August 2003, 00:06   #217
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Yu dont need your passports to come back to the homeland.

For you historians we were captured by the duchy of Normandy first and you guys after so we are mor eEnglish than you therefore we will excuse your need for passports!

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Old 22 August 2003, 10:12   #218
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Ho Hum - just get in your ribs and come on over, the weather is predicted to be good. Just don't forget the booze!
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Evening all,

Just been out getting the boat ready for this weekend only to find that she's finally fallen apart - in more places than I was expecting! I guess keeping up with Alan P was too much for her.

So rather annoyingly I’m not going to be able to make the cruise.

Anybody looking for crew?

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Old 22 August 2003, 20:20   #220
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Crikey - that's not very good news What happened - not the transom?

Now, we're down to bench seat only on our RIB, not ideal unless the weather's perfect, but can somebody offer you a place on a jockey seat? I guess that Dylan is also keen to come?
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