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Old 11 March 2007, 06:43   #151
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Spike,

Thanks for the info regarding mooring cans and Yachts. Although this presents a little dilemma. Low tide for the saturday is at 1411 hrs. Therefore if we are going to unload numerous RIBs and refuel them and not get caught by a falling tide we need to think about arriving by the latest at 1200 hrs to give us one hour to replen etc. This might not be easy. Although we could leave the refuelling to the Sunday morning.
Hi Biggles,
I agree that would be best (before 1200Hrs), if we can get a few fuel cans together & raft the RIBs three to a vistitors can then if we do caught by the falling tide then one rib could act like a runner picking up the fuel from the landing ramp pontoon while some of us collect the fuel from the garage & drop it down to the ramp its not to far a walk to the garage from what i remember. Something else that should be remembered is that no one should try to take the short cut across the sunken breakwater as they might loose a skeg/prop or worse allways best to follow the leading lines in to Bray as shown on the chart, just to be safe. Should be a great weekend pending on the weather.
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Old 11 March 2007, 07:02   #152
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Okay,

Looks like its time to start doing some serious planning. I've got the basics now so I'll knock something up over the coming week so it will give people a chance to point out any errors.
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Old 18 March 2007, 12:31   #153
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The Plan

This is a preliminary draft of the plan for the Alderney cruise in June this year. If anyone spots any mistakes please let me know. The cruise is open to all and the only reason a list of names is published is so that we can make sure we don't leave anyone behind. It would be appreciated if you could forward Mobile Phone numbers so that on the day we can do a final check and wait for anyone who might be a little late. And also not wait for anyone who can't make it.

This also means that people can start planning on purchasing any kit they require



Alderney RIBNET Trip 2007

Alderney Tides
16 June 2007

0155 hrs 0.89 m
0742 hrs 5.96 m
1411 hrs 1.19 m
1956 hrs 6.15 m

17 June 2007

0242 hrs 0.92 m
0829 hrs 5.86 m
1456 hrs 1.30 m
2040 hrs 6.04 m



Dates: Saturday 16 June 2007 - Sunday 17 June 2007

Timings: Rendevous outside Yarmouth Harbour at 0900 hrs.

Approxiamate arrival time at Alderney 1200 hrs. (Approx 60 miles at 20 Knots).

Route:

1) First waypoint is the Port Hand Bouy South West of the Bridge at N50 39.354 W1 37.379

2) Follow 219 Degrees true for 36.1 NM to N50 11.372 W2 12.955 (Just North of Channel Traffic Seperation Zone) (Check all present)

3) Follow 164 Degrees true for 19.2 NM to N49 53.030 W2 03.475 (Crossing Channel Traffic seperation Zone at right angles)

4) Follow 209 Degrees true for 10.2 NM to N49 44 333 W2 11.030 (Entrance to Alderney Harbour)

5) Follow Transit route on 210 Degrees into Alderney Harbour.


Total Distance from Needles to Alderney 64.4 NM.

Make haste towards Inner Braye for refuelling and offloading of equipment. Fuel cans will be required for petrol engines.

Depart Inner Braye at 1300 hrs for tieing up to mooring cans in Outer Braye on small boat moorings. Ribs will need to be moored in Braye Outer harbour.
Any yellow buoy will do. Note the number on the buoy and call VHF 37 for the water taxi (currently £1.80 each way) giving your buoy number.

Brian has offered to transport people who need to refuel from the garage about 150 mtrs away and also convey people to the campsite/B&Bs/hotels..

Other information:

Documentation:


For a UK Registered vessel visiting Guernsey, Jersey and Alderney you will need to carry on board your Ships Registration Papers, evidence of

Insurance,proof of vat, vhf licence and radio competency certificate.
Due to the Channel Islands not being in the UK or EU, it is treated as
foreign. You will need to make sure you fill in the necessary CustomForms, you need to complete the C1331 form and post the top copy in a
Customs Box before departure and when arriving back in the UK you need
to complete part 2 of the C1331 form (this is explained on the form).
This form can be obtained from Revenue and Customs, www.hmrc.gov.uk or
telephone 0845 010 9000.

Medical:

Mignot Memorial Hospital
Crabby
Alderney, GY9 3XY
Tel: +44 (0)1481 822822


The Island Medical Centre
Sundial House,
Les Rocquettes
Alderney
Tel: +44 (0)1481 822077


Dental:

Dental Practice
Les Venelles
Alderney, GY9 3TW
Tel: +44 (0)1481 823131

There is no National Health Service as known in the U.K. A free hospital casualty service is available, but patients have to pay for GP and dental
services. They also have to pay for ambulance services and for the services of a doctor in the Accident and Emergency department. Drugs prescribed
by a medical practitioner are free . However, a prescription charge (per item) has to be paid. Specialist cover is provided, under the compulsory GSSA
Specialist Health Insurance Scheme, but most residents also contribute to private medical insurance schemes to cover General Practitioners fees.
Full details of Social Security matters and medical health cover can be obtained from the Guernsey Social Security Authority. Tel +44 (0)1481 732500 -

Fax +44 (0)1481 732501.

Camp Site.

Their is only one permitted camp site on Alderney.

The States Camp Site Operator:

Mrs Jayne Capazario

8 Clos Carré

Alderney

GY9 3UY

Channel Islands

Tel +44(0)1481 822556 Fax:+44(0)1481 822436

Email: camping@alderney.net



More information on Alderney can be found here: http://www.alderney.gov.gg/index.php/pid/66/

Participents So Far :

Boat name; Boat Size: Crew: Launch place:

Zerstorer 5.85 m Biggles + 1 Warsash

Shamu 7m + Lewy + 1 N/K

Cookie Jar 8m + Roy Smith + 1 N/K

Evolution 7m + Tim M +1 N/K

Jamiha 4m + Spike Weymouth

Old Spice 6m + Pete7 + ? Portsmouth

Danny Boy 5m + Chris1573 N/K

? ? Ian M + ? Lymington

Jigsaw 6.5m James +1 N/K

Mach1 5.4m Ian Mcconnell +1 N/K

Selva 6m+ Watersideman1 + 3/5 N/K

Vixen 5m+ neil harvey + 1 N/K

Darwin 6m+ Andy B007 + ? Southampton

If its your first mad RIBnet blast have a read of JK's RIBnet cruising advice. Also apologies for incorrect spelling of names or any other errors.
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Old 18 March 2007, 12:49   #154
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3) Follow 164 Degrees true for 19.2 NM to N49 53.030 W2 03.475 (Crossing Channel Traffic seperation Zone at right angles)

You've got be kidding
At the Needles fairway bouy set a course for 220deg and you will bump into Braye harbour wall. It really is a no-brainer. If you do happen upon a larger vessel than yours, slow down and go around the back of him.
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Old 18 March 2007, 12:57   #155
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You've got be kidding
At the Needles fairway bouy set a course for 220deg and you will bump into Braye harbour wall. It really is a no-brainer.
Just trying to do it properly. I was under the impression you were obliged to cross the Transit by the shortest route. Thats how I've done the plan. But as with everything its open to change if the considered opinion is to go as the crow flies.
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Old 18 March 2007, 12:58   #156
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You've got be kidding
At the Needles fairway bouy set a course for 220deg and you will bump into Braye harbour wall. It really is a no-brainer. If you do happen upon a larger vessel than yours, slow down and go around the back of him.
Having done this in a Sailing Yacht, I agree with you Charles.

Best to avoid the TSS entirely, if you can help it!
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Just trying to do it properly. I was under the impression you were obliged to cross the Transit by the shortest route. Thats how I've done the plan. But as with everything its open to change if the considered opinion is to go as the crow flies.
The Casquets TSS (From Memory) is actually a fair bit further west that you need to go. If you avoid that, you still have to cross the shipping, but normal Colregs apply.

My Grandad did offer another suggestion though - if poor weather/visibility, it can actually be best to cross in the middle of the TSS, simply so that you know exactly where the shipping is going to be.

Conflicting information from me, as usual!
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Just trying to do it properly.
And right you are, I have yet to see a power boat doing this though. Of the 30 odd times I have made this crossing I would hazard a guess and say approximately 90% of the time I never saw another vessel. (perhaps cause I was in fog - only kidding!! )
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Old 18 March 2007, 13:08   #159
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Okay. Note to self. First amendment to plan. Change route.
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Biggles, this PDF is pretty comprehensive, particularly page 20 onwards.
http://www.jersey.com/brochures/uploads/3514-9084.pdf -
It is very useful for any CI destination.
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