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Old 06 September 2008, 21:39   #1
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Ultimate Rib Accessory!!!

This has got to be the Rib "must have"!!!
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Old 07 September 2008, 18:06   #2
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Nice!!! Looks like an FN 240B, no need to worry about COLREGS with one of those up forward!

Wouldnt look out of place on the front of mine but trying to get hold of 7.62 NATO ammo is nigh on impossible at the mo
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Could have the answer for you - the M249 SAW in the picture fires 5.56 Nato Ammunition - and on the M40 yesterday I passed an ammunition convoy of some 20 Heavy Truacks that must have had hundreds of thousands of rounds - all you have to do ius get by the couple of dozen RAF Regiment guys with their SA80s and side arms - but that shouldnt be a problem - should it?
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Not with the SA80's reliability record, no
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Not with the SA80's reliability record, no
Just throw some sand in their general direction?




As for the toy, I'd far rather have homing torpedoes that only aim at jetskis....
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So is there a theoretical risk that the bow gunner in the photo could hose the wheelhouse off?

You'd think a position/turret on top of the whellhouse night be a bit safer...

Have the SA80 faults been resolved being as it's coming upto it's 20th birthday an all that.
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If it is Amercian then friendly fire is almost compulsory - so no issues over the firing position.

I have it on good authority that the SA 80 Mk 2 is a very good weapon - but like all automatic weapons needs to be looked after. They have no more problems with it than the M16 or any other - possibly apart from the AK47 - which is practically bomb proof - but still uses 7.62 ammunition - whereas NATO now uses 5.56.
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apart from the AK47 - which is practically bomb proof - but still uses 7.62 ammunition - whereas NATO now uses 5.56.
But its a shorter case for the AK47 ammo... 7.62x39 as opposed to the NATO 7.62x51
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But its a shorter case for the AK47 ammo... 7.62x39 as opposed to the NATO 7.62x51
Yup it's all crap - they should have stuck to proper 7.62 - something like an SLR is much better suited to terrain like Afghanistan - fight old fashioned wars with old fashioned weapons - much better range and hitting power.

At 300yds the 5.56NATO has only 470ft lbs of energy - the 7.62NATO has 1345ft lbs - thats a hell of a difference. The AK47 round has 652ft lbs at 300 yards. It easily outpaces 5.56 but nowhere near 7.62.
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Yep, but the old SLR was restricted to semi auto in the British army to save carrying so much ammunition and its weight. Plus engagment ranges were found in op research to be usually under 400 yards so the extra range was wasted in most cases (there will always be exceptions) but generally ranges are short.
The M16 is oft quoted in comparison to the SA80 as being superior in reliabilty, this may be so but the M16 has not been trouble free. Remember the original advice that it did not require cleaning?
The AK47 is a very good and reliable weapon but it is well known that if the first two shots didn't get you then you are fairly safe just standing still as the rest will be all over the place except where you are aiming! It was designed for reliability, ease of manufacture and maintenance, not accuracy!
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