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Old 08 September 2008, 21:20   #11
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Yep, but the old SLR was restricted to semi auto in the British army to save carrying so much ammunition and its weight. Plus engagment ranges were found in op research to be usually under 400 yards so the extra range was wasted in most cases (there will always be exceptions) but generally ranges are short.
The M16 is oft quoted in comparison to the SA80 as being superior in reliabilty, this may be so but the M16 has not been trouble free. Remember the original advice that it did not require cleaning?
The AK47 is a very good and reliable weapon but it is well known that if the first two shots didn't get you then you are fairly safe just standing still as the rest will be all over the place except where you are aiming! It was designed for reliability, ease of manufacture and maintenance, not accuracy!
I still think the semi auto mode is the best - soldiers tend to waste far too much ammo otherwise. Make every shot count.

Yes engagement ranges are normally shorter than 400yards in MODERN warfare - but fighting in mountains and deserts against tribesmen can hardly be classed as that!!!

The revised SA80 is a fantastic weapon - now one of the best.
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The SA 80 mk 2 is a different weapon to the original and is very good coupled with the higher Nato 5.56 round its velocity is higher than the M16 223 the chambers are slightly different on the two cailbres.
AK 74 with its smaller cartridge replaced the AK47. One of the best calibres around is the 6.8 SPC developed by the American 5th Special Forces Group out in Afganistan which outperforms the 223/5.56 and has the power of near the 7.62 to knock down a man out to 600 meters
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The SA 80 mk 2 is a different weapon to the original and is very good coupled with the higher Nato 5.56 round its velocity is higher than the M16 223 the chambers are slightly different on the two cailbres.
AK 74 with its smaller cartridge replaced the AK47. One of the best calibres around is the 6.8 SPC developed by the American 5th Special Forces Group out in Afganistan which outperforms the 223/5.56 and has the power of near the 7.62 to knock down a man out to 600 meters
It amazed me that they devloped this new calibre and spent a fortune on it - why not use 7.62 and be done with? They car share the same ammo as the GPMG etc then instead of having to find yet more new stuff!!!
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One of the best calibres around is the 6.8 SPC
Going to be interesting to see what weapons are going to come out for this, as IMO barrel length will be important to maintain the muzzle energy that gives it its advantage. For all thats said about 5.56, in a decent weapon it is a very accurate little fella !
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This has got to be the Rib "must have"!!!
Interesting. That's a 33' SAFE boat; most of the Defenders in use on the left coast of the US are the 25's.

The two 25's in use in Monterey have pintle mounts fore and aft for the M-249's (though I believe they usually run without the really long guns; one of the crew told me they *always* have at least one long gun, usually an M-16/M-4 type.)

One night a group of us were heading out for night dive when the other boat ran out of gas. I towed him back in towards the harbor, and we decided to do a dive anyways, since we ran over the site on the way back in. So, we dropped the hooks, started gearing up, and all of a sudden we get lit up. Look over to see nothing but a searchlight. As it moves around us, I see the vague outline of the CG 25 boat, and the much more distinct (at the time) outline of a guy on teh M-249 at the bow (and heard, quite clearly, everyone in the other boat saying "Jeff; Shut Up.") The boat circled us a few times, then headed around the jetty back to their slip. They never said a word to us.

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Having owned and fired 1000's of rounds from all of the weapons mentioned: if had had to choose just one gun to own it would be an AK 47 in 7.62x39.
BTW a M2 50cal. would be better on that size boat or twin MG1's-7.62x51 NATO, (AKA MG42- 8mm) at 1,100 rpm it will saw anything in half.
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if had had to choose just one gun to own it would be an AK 47 in 7.62x39.
Wondered where you'd got to LL .. would that be for self defence or just areating the front grass to aid watering
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People who live in the States seem to use guns for everything.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7091904.stm

"A US man has injured himself in both legs after attempting to loosen a stiff wheel-nut by blasting it with his gun."

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2944302.html

"A 56-year-old US man has been arrested after shooting his lawnmower because it wouldn't start."

And I bet there are loads more!!!
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Wondered where you'd got to LL .. would that be for self defence or just areating the front grass to aid watering
Both, plus a few more useful applications.
Unfortunately I have retired and now live in Mexico and had to sell 50 guns. Broke my heart but I made a handsome profit. The up side is that I can take my RIB out nearly any day I want and only have to drive 3 mins to launch and petrol is 0.35p per litre.
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