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Old 25 April 2006, 22:04   #271
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I thought they looked a bit too chunky as well

these look a far better bet

http://www.mailspeedmarine.com/Produ...9-9999e3d4a288

same sort of thing but composite.
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Old 26 April 2006, 03:46   #272
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I looked at different ways of making the jockey seating in my Ocean 6.25 more comfortable for my lads, particularly my youngest, who canít touch the deck with his feet and tends to slide backwards along the top.

My first thought like yours was motorcycle pillion pegs, but I came to the conclusion that anything I bolted to the seat base would bruise my legs all year, rub them during the summer, and damage my dry suit the rest of the year. The other issue was having to move them down each year as he got bigger.

Iím in the middle of making up my solution. Itís basically a stirrup system.
A tight main webbing strap goes over the seat and fixes on both vertical sides of the fibreglass base near the bottom with large press studs.
This stops any backwards and forwards or up and down movements.
Then using a pair of buckles the stirrup with a plastic base can be moved up and down the main strap as required.
When Iím driving, hopefully by moving the top buckle up the stirrup will pull flat against the vertical side of the base, or by undoing the two poppers can be removed completely, leaving just two small studs down near the deck where they canít do any harm.

Hope that makes sense.

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They look spot on!

On the subject of lanyards for children earlier on here... I have decided very firmly against these as a dangerous idea. Child bounces out, nasty splash in sea possible injury. Child on line bouces out, nasty spash possible injury and dragged alon under boat/in prop/beside boat for the 10 to 20m it will take to stop (and you can't do a crash stop turn)! No way I am risking that. And if you did go over...
Just back to sensible weather conditions and driving me thinks!
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I thought of the stirrup system but what happens in a flip if the kid gets his foot caught in the stirrup? Doesn't bear thinking about!!!
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Old 26 April 2006, 09:35   #275
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On the subject of lanyards for children earlier on here... I have decided very firmly against these as a dangerous idea. Child bounces out, nasty splash in sea possible injury. Child on line bouces out, nasty spash possible injury and dragged alon under boat/in prop/beside boat for the 10 to 20m it will take to stop (and you can't do a crash stop turn)! No way I am risking that. And if you did go over...
Just back to sensible weather conditions and driving me thinks!
What are you talking about I keep my kids on a safety line THAT IS TOO SHORT FOR THEM TO FALL OVER THE SIDE. Putting a child on a line that would alow them to fall overboard and be dragged along with the prop was never mentioned here
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Chris

I looked at different ways of making the jockey seating in my Ocean 6.25 more comfortable for my lads, particularly my youngest, who canít touch the deck with his feet and tends to slide backwards along the top.

My first thought like yours was motorcycle pillion pegs, but I came to the conclusion that anything I bolted to the seat base would bruise my legs all year, rub them during the summer, and damage my dry suit the rest of the year. The other issue was having to move them down each year as he got bigger.

Iím in the middle of making up my solution. Itís basically a stirrup system.
A tight main webbing strap goes over the seat and fixes on both vertical sides of the fibreglass base near the bottom with large press studs.
This stops any backwards and forwards or up and down movements.
Then using a pair of buckles the stirrup with a plastic base can be moved up and down the main strap as required.
When Iím driving, hopefully by moving the top buckle up the stirrup will pull flat against the vertical side of the base, or by undoing the two poppers can be removed completely, leaving just two small studs down near the deck where they canít do any harm.

Hope that makes sense.

Nasher
Superb idea - definately the best solution so far
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I thought of the stirrup system but what happens in a flip if the kid gets his foot caught in the stirrup? Doesn't bear thinking about!!!
What you have to weigh up though is likely hood of a flip with young kids on board (ie you shouldnt be blatting along pushing the envelope anyway) against likely hood of child falling off the seat all the time and risking them getting hurt or falling overboard.
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Perhaps it's worth mentioning, before we get ourselves too uptight, that the most dangerous aspect of ribbing with kids is driving them in the car to the sea/marina.
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Perhaps it's worth mentioning, before we get ourselves too uptight, that the most dangerous aspect of ribbing with kids is driving them in the car to the sea/marina.
Very true!!!

I remember being in the back of a dune buggy and being bounced around so much I kept hitting my head on the roll over bar so I obviously wasn't strapped in and we must have been going pretty fast - I was 7.

I also remember jumping out of a jeep traveliing at speed across the desert with my brother - my father must have had a shock when he turned around a few miles later and found we had gone!!! Apparently he was doing about 60mph and it wasn't nice soft sand - it was the baked solid stuff like concrete - I didn't have a scratch but my brother had a few grazes.

The point I am trying to make is kids are tougher than people realise - often tougher than adults cos they have more supple bones etc.

I think most people these days are guilty of mollycoddling kids too much - not always a good thing!!!
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Mollycoddersing NO but sensible YES. After all I guess my kids are pretty precious to me....
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