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Old 27 September 2006, 20:43   #21
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From what I have been told Avon have only made one (pictured) as a part of the new sea rider range (I stand to be corrected) and my good friend David (an Avon Dealer) is pictured in all the shots, he offered me the boat at a very good price and it most certainly didn't have ullman seats, radar, ally console or look any thing like a CZ7.

Are you saying the engines would have more protection if they were on a transom?

The floor does use the same technology as some trainers, but it is in no way the same as wearing a pair of trainers.

By the way have you been on a big revenger or your boat or any of the rapier copies in a big following sea? I've haven't been in a boat that stuffs its nose as much as a 7.5m/8m rapier based copy. I'd rather be in a 4m sea rider.

I've been lucky enough to be out with Jon on the CZ7 on a variety of days from flat calm, to force 6's, and rolling swells after a storm and you really will not find a boat that performs in this way, and is finished with such perfection.

It just a shame few of us will actually own one or even get to have ago in one.

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Old 27 September 2006, 20:55   #22
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luv yer boat mate!...this is the most awsome bit of kit ive seen in 23 years of owning ribs and to be driven by two big etecs

The true test of its sea going quality and reliability would be to come on a north west ribsters day out...isnt that right Mr Garton
sorry codders you cant come jono said so
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Envy is when somebody else's RIB has several engines and all of them are lots bigger than the one on mine

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Old 27 September 2006, 21:19   #24
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Andy, not my boat

Ged, Jons been out with north west boys. I'm slowly being converted to etecs! Codders is welcome anytime, but apparently the road are to small from north to South wales and with no fuel stops for a big old tec two stroke, cant come by sea, so best stick to the boating lake at Port Talbot.

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Old 27 September 2006, 21:29   #25
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Codders

From what I have been told Avon have only made one (pictured) as a part of the new sea rider range (I stand to be corrected) and my good friend David (an Avon Dealer) is pictured in all the shots, he offered me the boat at a very good price and it most certainly didn't have ullman seats, radar, ally console or look any thing like a CZ7.

Are you saying the engines would have more protection if they were on a transom?

The floor does use the same technology as some trainers, but it is in no way the same as wearing a pair of trainers.

By the way have you been on a big revenger or your boat or any of the rapier copies in a big following sea? I've haven't been in a boat that stuffs its nose as much as a 7.5m/8m rapier based copy. I'd rather be in a 4m sea rider.

I've been lucky enough to be out with Jon on the CZ7 on a variety of days from flat calm, to force 6's, and rolling swells after a storm and you really will not find a boat that performs in this way, and is finished with such perfection.

It just a shame few of us will actually own one or even get to have ago in one.

Regards

Jono (a Big CZ7 fan & dont like rapier copies in a big following sea) Garton

Well I have been out in a Force 8 in some pretty nasty conditions - didn't manage to stuff my boat once - didn't even get wet. Mind you my boat definitely has bigger tubes than the Revengers.

Actually a few of the Avons have been delivered now - direct to military and commercial organisations.

To be honest I don't know what would happen if a big wave broke over the stern - the pad would prob act as a good lever though - bit like a big bathing platform.
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Old 27 September 2006, 22:17   #26
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luv yer boat mate!...this is the most awsome bit of kit ive seen in 23 years of owning ribs and to be driven by two big etecs

The true test of its sea going quality and reliability would be to come on a north west ribsters day out...isnt that right Mr Garton
Let me know where and when and I will be there and will be happy to take you and anyone else who fancies it out for a run.

Cobblers you are of course welcome too - at least then you would be able to talk from a position of authority instead of spouting codders

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Old 28 September 2006, 21:16   #27
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Let me know where and when and I will be there and will be happy to take you and anyone else who fancies it out for a run.

Cobblers you are of course welcome too - at least then you would be able to talk from a position of authority instead of spouting codders

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do i qualify as "anybody else" as should be down abersoch/Phwelli (sorry about spelling) ?> this weekend that is

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Old 29 September 2006, 06:50   #28
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You are full of the brown stuff have you been ina big revenger in a big following sea?
That is so unkind But true

In the interests of impartiality I shall be down this weekend see ya and the CZ7 on the water?
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Old 29 September 2006, 11:53   #29
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That is so unkind But true

In the interests of impartiality I shall be down this weekend see ya and the CZ7 on the water?
Maybe I should take you out in a big sea - then you would be full of the "brown stuff"!!!
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Old 29 September 2006, 15:38   #30
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do i qualify as "anybody else" as should be down abersoch/Phwelli (sorry about spelling) ?> this weekend that is

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Can't be there at the weekend but should be down on Thursday if that is any help

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Old 29 September 2006, 15:39   #31
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That is so unkind But true

In the interests of impartiality I shall be down this weekend see ya and the CZ7 on the water?

See above

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Old 29 September 2006, 15:40   #32
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Maybe I should take you out in a big sea - then you would be full of the "brown stuff"!!!

Or you could come out with me and not be full of Brown Stuff

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Old 29 September 2006, 17:17   #33
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Maybe I should take you out in a big sea - then you would be full of the "brown stuff"!!!
OK, i'm sure my drysuit will cope with the additional internal load
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Old 29 September 2006, 17:21   #34
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Or you could come out with me and not be full of Brown Stuff

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Done, as long as that nutter Garton isn't helming I checked out the RNLI Site and wondered why Jono G seems to appear on so many pics on the rescued craft?????????????? does he go out masquerading as a lifeboat man?
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Old 29 September 2006, 18:55   #35
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Done, as long as that nutter Garton isn't helming I checked out the RNLI Site and wondered why Jono G seems to appear on so many pics on the rescued craft?????????????? does he go out masquerading as a lifeboat man?
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Old 30 September 2006, 22:43   #36
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Mr Jono Garton,

The name is Sparrow...Captain Jack Sparrow and I have been sailing these waters for many years now and have seen many a thing. However, nothing has quite shocked me as to your attitude towards other peoples misfortunes. Savvy?

You claim to be a man of the RNLI, a man who risks his life in the highs seas for any person who may be in peril but then you lower to such levels as humiliation. Maybe you be a Pirate yourself or is it you need to find yourself a girl mate...You're not a eunuch are you? O and I see no 'Professional'lism about your person. Savvy?

Being a man held in such high asteem around these parts by many (and possibly not such high asteem by a few) I believe you need look again at the manner in which you behave. Instead of attempting in someway to redicule those who make a slight navigational error while transitting those tretourous waters I believe you should insist in parting with your wealth of knowledge and experience and offer free instruction to the sailors, maybe a place to stay while you do so! Savvy?

One day you may be in need of some assistance while sailing the seas (I do hope I'm passing you by, I will remember to wave after taking your treasure - Not all treasure is silver and gold!) and if this happens there comes a time when one must take responsibility for one's mistakes. I'm sure you will not appreciate someone laughing at the photo or as your boats sinks - I should know, I have lost many a ship to the sea. Savvy?

Well Mr Garton, thats me done for now, I'm off to search for my ship - The Black Pearl.

P.S. I think we've all arrived at a very special place. Spiritually, ecumenically, grammatically! Savvy?
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Old 30 September 2006, 23:09   #37
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capt J Sparrow,

You often wonder why when someone has invested many thousands of pounds in a fine ship that they can't be bothered to invest in some sort of training.
If they had read their charts then they would have known that that wall was there. Unfortunate but thats sea faring life.

Maybe you think the local council should erect another wall on top of the existing one to warn everyone. And bung it on the poor Council Tax payers bill.

Jack. Fine words, but if I ever see you in Her Majestys Waters I shall take great pleasure in disabling your main brace. A Pirates heart is blacker than a black thing.

Signed. An Officer of Her Majestys Forces.
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Old 30 September 2006, 23:27   #38
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Ah Commodore Biggles, I see you are organising a fleet review of all you Rib Nobburs later this windy day, to be sailed 10 abreast through the Solent. How splendid, if only I was there to see it!

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Maybe you think the local council should erect another wall on top of the existing one to warn everyone.
I suggest a compass similar to mine.

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Jack. Fine words, but if I ever see you in Her Majestys Waters I shall take great pleasure in disabling your main brace.
The British Navy with The Interceptor couldn't catch me, what hope do you have young sir?

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That's not much incentive for me to fight fair then, is it?"Savvy?

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Old 01 October 2006, 08:12   #39
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now theres a great idea for next year-


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