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Old 26 September 2013, 09:36   #91
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Must as that not all SR 5.4 handle or act the same. So yours might be great. However mine is certainly not. For my capped SR I think the phrase 'Glass Eye' works well, looks great but is absolutely useless
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Old 26 September 2013, 10:54   #92
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if you uncap it there will be no water at speed anyway.. 170kgs is over the limit for a SR5.4. for unbalanced/stern heavy and not pleasant ride.

if you uncap it, the take off will be awfull as 1/4 tonne of water rushes to the stern and will really dig in...
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Old 26 September 2013, 11:12   #93
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Matt I have 4 of these boats all with heavier engines non of which do as you explain. The capped hull wollows and rocks about, handles poorly and is effected massively by the wind. Perhaps my vessel is an exception. 170kg is above max yet the other craft don't suffer from this. The other craft that was out there with me had a heavier engine, has a flooding hull and was far far far better in the sea. Like I have said no two seariders I have ever been in act 100% the same.
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Old 26 September 2013, 12:05   #94
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Why would any sane person cap this hull????? I can't see what you hope to benefit from this. I work with a fleet of 5 seariders only 1 has the hull caped and it's dogshit. As for the weight issues I'm a fatty and working at the rear of the boats makes no difference. These boats with the 4 strokes are so good i'm going to get one for my family
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Avon have frequently quoted 175kg as a max engine weight for an SR5.4. The majority of the spec. plates factory fitted to transoms state a single 90hp or 2 x 40hp although over the years there are several examples of 115hp and even 120hp max engine plates quoted. I posted a copy of a 120hp plate the other day. So 170kg is not over max just uncomfortably close to the edge!

Also, as I understand it the flooding hull is primarily intended in allowing the deep v hull to sit lower in the water at rest adding stability and ease of entry from the water. Once "on the plane" and the hull is fully empty it's irrelevant.
The disadvantage of that large volume of water is that it adds some considerable weight which slows the acceleration "hole shot" when on the move.

Blocking the hull on mine has drastically improved the hole shot which is really handy when wake boarding with my girls. The 90+hp 2 stroke 136kg lump that I'm currently running can spin a 21" prop and reaches around 47mph but dropping to a 19" pitch gives better handling/response when in the rough (and yes it has cut up quite bad on some return trips).
I was also extremely glad to have blocked the hull when I had to recover 4 kited divers, 8 cylinders, and tow a 5mt bombard rib with a duff Suzuki some 8mile back to shore. Even with my engine we struggled to make much headway with wind over tide. I think if I had a flooded hull we would have had to call in additional help.
As far as a blocked hull and diving is concerned I admit it is slightly more difficult to pull myself in over the tubes so now ask the helm to put their weight on the entry side which helps as much as if the hull was flooded. Please bare in mind that I have been diving from ribs and especially Seariders on and off for around 25 years and have regularly run a 4.7mt blocked hull and a 60Mariner alongside a 5.4 flooded hull and a 90Merc and a 4mt with various engines blocked and unblocked.
For me and the way I have set this rib/high console position and the use I put it to, I vote "Blocked up", but hey it's personal choice and easy enough to try both ways with a blanking plate.

Now for more news on the engine saga.....
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Decided yesterday based purely on price to order a brand new Mercury 90hp Optimax. I had spent the day ringing dealers and waiting for calls that didn't get returned.....! Listened to dealers quoting me their best price that was dearer than you can casually see on the first page of Goggle.
But you know what, I still wasn't happy so on the way to pay the deposit on the Merc I took a detour to Liverpool Power Boats!
Ian at LPB had patiently listened to me the day before, he had phoned me back when he promised and gave me some solid advice on all aspects of engines, regardless of make.
So guess what? Yep Ian took a deposit off me today for a nice new E-Tec 90..... Yeh now I'm happy! Unfortunately Evinrude haven't got around to painting them Black so I have compromised and ordered Blue.
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by god i hope you are happy - youve spent that long dithering over it! its also a bit girly complaining about the colour!
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by god i hope you are happy - youve spent that long dithering over it! its also a bit girly complaining about the colour!
By who's god?
Anyway I have spent a lot longer scraping the money together than deciding on which one to splash the cash on! Especially when even the 'experts' can't agree on which to buy.
As for the colour, call me girlie, (i've been called a lot worse), but turns out Evinrude have seen the light and are bringing out special versions for the military? Low reflection technical black paint.....
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Decided yesterday based purely on price to order a brand new Mercury 90hp Optimax. I had spent the day ringing dealers and waiting for calls that didn't get returned.....! Listened to dealers quoting me their best price that was dearer than you can casually see on the first page of Goggle.
But you know what, I still wasn't happy so on the way to pay the deposit on the Merc I took a detour to Liverpool Power Boats!
Ian at LPB had patiently listened to me the day before, he had phoned me back when he promised and gave me some solid advice on all aspects of engines, regardless of make.
So guess what? Yep Ian took a deposit off me today for a nice new E-Tec 90..... Yeh now I'm happy! Unfortunately Evinrude haven't got around to painting them Black so I have compromised and ordered Blue.
Well done, enjoy it
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id say get it vinyl wrapped but i think that may be quite tricky. anyhow, the more youve scrimped and saved to buy something, the more you will appreciate and enjoy it. when do you take delivery?
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