Project Martini - Arctic 28 - Page 2

Paul F · 09 March 2008, 22:20

Bet theres some nice storage areas under the deck like the Pac 22s
Paul

martini · 09 March 2008, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Paul F

Bet theres some nice storage areas under the deck like the Pac 22s
Paul

I'm hoping to make a nice sized anchor locker under the fore deck but that will be it, the tanks run almost the entire length of the boat!

My mind's been put at ease on seeing the tanks, I had heard a couple of times that total capacity was only 400 litres, not really enough for long distance cruising with twin 225's.

Got the tape out and calculated I've got a theoretical 680 litres, 340 each tank, probably enough to get me to the south coast and back on a calm day.

I also calculated that the weight of a full fuel load would be half a ton!

I'm putting the calculator away now before I start working out how much it will cost to fill said tanks, idle hands and all that!!

Jimmy C · 10 March 2008, 11:16

best part of £850 if their empty!!!

martini · 10 March 2008, 16:20

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Originally Posted by Jimmy C

best part of £850 if their empty!!!

Or a bit over £400 this side of the Channel

codprawn · 11 March 2008, 00:43

I know - lucky buggers. Those are seriously big tanks - I've only got 105 gallons on mine - still gives me a range of over 300 miles though!!!

karlT · 11 March 2008, 14:13

Think i saw it parked on your drive as I drove past it!! Is it up at red houses?? looks like a serious piece of kit. Are you doing all the work outside or have you got use of a shed??

Hopefully see you on the water this summer. Look out for the 11m Tornado with twin 275 verados going past you at 60+

Regards

Karl T

martini · 11 March 2008, 16:55

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Originally Posted by karlT

Think i saw it parked on your drive as I drove past it!! Is it up at red houses?? looks like a serious piece of kit. Are you doing all the work outside or have you got use of a shed??

Hopefully see you on the water this summer. Look out for the 11m Tornado with twin 275 verados going past you at 60+

Regards

Karl T

Yes I was having a good nose at yours in the marina last year, very nice indeed! In fact I should probably blame you for leading me astray! I didn't realize yours was 11m, thought it was 9.5m

That is mine at red houses, we've got a 2000 sqft workshop just round the corner so it goes there for the weekend. My boss is (fairly) easy going like that

Jizm · 12 March 2008, 20:38

good pics, keep 'em coming...

Twister · 12 March 2008, 21:37

Hi,

I also bought an Arctic 28, but I will convert it to inboard diesel 315hp yamaha. Nice to see the inside of the boat already. I haven't started yet, but will do soon. Pics and suggestions are always welcome.

martini · 12 March 2008, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Twister

Hi,

I also bought an Arctic 28, but I will convert it to inboard diesel 315hp yamaha. Nice to see the inside of the boat already. I haven't started yet, but will do soon. Pics and suggestions are always welcome.

PM sent

martini · 15 March 2008, 17:45

Didn't get a great deal done today, it's been p***ing down all day and had to do battle with another 10,000 screws

I did get the tubes off though, and the grp moulding that the tubes sit on, so the rest of the deck is now ready to come off. Thats going to be the biggest challenge so far, all the screws are hidden under the Treadmaster which is stuck on good and proper. Looks like I'm going to have to use a crowbar etc to break up the deck piece by piece and get the screws out after

I knocked up a frame out of some angle iron and timber to support the tubes evenly while I forklifted them off. Worked really well and much easier than trying to organise 10 guys to try and manually lift them.

At least with the tubes now off the boat it's a heck of a lot easier to work on!

Limey Linda · 15 March 2008, 18:36

Have you tryed a heat gun on the treadmaster. Mine peled off OK.

martini · 15 March 2008, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Limey Linda

Have you tryed a heat gun on the treadmaster. Mine peled off OK.

Might give that a go actually, is it a slow process to get enough heat on it?
I could maybe carefully use a propane torch? at least on there areas NOT near the fuel tanks

Limey Linda · 15 March 2008, 19:02

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Originally Posted by martini

Might give that a go actually, is it a slow process to get enough heat on it?
I could maybe carefully use a propane torch? at least on there areas NOT near the fuel tanks

Not a slow process for me as the sun had already warmed the thing up. However, I suggest generally warming up say 1 square ft. at a time then move the gun in close to get a small area really hot. Best of luck.

Twister · 22 March 2008, 17:08

Hi Everyone...

Here some pics of the arctic that we'll convert to an inboard diesel. As far as I can see on Martini's pics, the engine will be put in stead of the aft tank with a shaft to the stern.

martini · 22 March 2008, 19:09

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Originally Posted by Twister

Hi Everyone...

Here some pics of the arctic that we'll convert to an inboard diesel. As far as I can see on Martini's pics, the engine will be put in stead of the aft tank with a shaft to the stern.

Twister, I don't think you will fit an inboard between the 2 main stringers that run the entire length of the boat, from notes I have in front of me now, I work out there is 550mm in between them. It would take a braver man than I to chop them out! Good luck

Twister · 23 March 2008, 13:40

Hi, As I look at the pics I think it would be easier to get the tank out and chop the two stringers there, then chop the stringers aft and removing the last part of the deck. But this is only what I think. We will start in a week or two and then we will see what's best. I think it's an advantage to have the engine in the middle of the boat here on the North Sea with its waves.
Good luck to you and I will inform you.

Twister

martini · 27 March 2008, 23:36

Not much of visual interest happened over the easter holiday but I have reached the turning point where it's now not all about tearing apart!

Saturday was spent removing the A-frame and rest of the deck which came off a lot quicker than I thought.

Sunday was all about removing the couple of hundred screws that were left behind in the deck. Tip for anyone in a similar situation - rather than scraping out the slots in the screw heads and trying to get a screwdiver to get a purchase on it, I used a snap on bolt extractor, basically a socket with left hand spiral flutes inside which grip the head of a screw as well as a bolt. In combination with a cordless drill this job only took a day as well.

Monday I cut out a slightly damaged/rotten support in the floor near the transom. This provided a connection to the bottom half of the aluminium transom plate (see pic 1). I then made a stainless angle support (pic 2) which now bolts right thru the 4 main stringers in the hull (pics 3+4), hopefully andding a bit more strength to the transom.

Limey Linda · 28 March 2008, 00:20

Looking good. Boy, have you got a lot of sanding/grinding to do to get back to a good surface. Is the bilge sump below that area?

martini · 28 March 2008, 20:05

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Originally Posted by Limey Linda

Looking good. Boy, have you got a lot of sanding/grinding to do to get back to a good surface. Is the bilge sump below that area?

Looks worse than it is. I think behind the aluminium transom plate was back-filled with resin or similar to fill the gap. It seems to want to come off quite easily.

All the water inside the hull drains into the centre section at the back where I will be fitting a bilge pump.

Someone was telling me today about a problem they had with one of these boats sitting very low in the water. This was in 1991 around the time of Gulf War 1. They couldn't figure it out and eventually pulled it out of the water and found bullet holes in the hull!!

Checked mine and couldn't find any