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Old 12 November 2012, 12:10   #11
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We ran the 22' Whaler Guardian over Thursday night to the West End in 65' of water for a wide open limit style crawl on some nice grade lobster. We were back at the dock at 11pm with 14 lobster. Ran solo last night and it was much slower, water had dropped off 3 degrees to 59.8 due to weekend storm and the current wasn't "ideal". Still managed to get 7 but it took a whole lot longer........

So far, shaping up to be a good bug season.

Let me know if you want to run some time.
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Old 15 November 2012, 14:17   #12
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We ran the 22' Whaler Guardian over Thursday night to the West End in 65' of water for a wide open limit style crawl on some nice grade lobster. We were back at the dock at 11pm with 14 lobster. Ran solo last night and it was much slower, water had dropped off 3 degrees to 59.8 due to weekend storm and the current wasn't "ideal". Still managed to get 7 but it took a whole lot longer........

So far, shaping up to be a good bug season.

Let me know if you want to run some time.
I don't know anything about hooping (other than what I've read)...I always just swam down and grabbed them!!!

I would like to go sometime with someone knowledgeable though. I'll be in Two Harbors Sat-Mon AM this weekend. Hoping to get a dive in (or two).
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Old 15 November 2012, 22:46   #13
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I was over there today, smooth seas. Rain is schedule for the weekend. Let me know if you want to try the hoop deal, send me a PM with your phone number. Since the opener this season, I am now into the triple digits as far as volume goes........ so I kinda know how to do it........

Going to try a 24 pitch 4 blade after Thanksgiving since still over WOT.

Will let you know how the performance works out.

With the 22P, it's starting to be a little bit of a nightmare around the dock, idle is at 6.4 knots...........
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I was over there today, smooth seas. Rain is schedule for the weekend. Let me know if you want to try the hoop deal, send me a PM with your phone number. Since the opener this season, I am now into the triple digits as far as volume goes........ so I kinda know how to do it........

Going to try a 24 pitch 4 blade after Thanksgiving since still over WOT.

Will let you know how the performance works out.

With the 22P, it's starting to be a little bit of a nightmare around the dock, idle is at 6.4 knots...........
You've got me beat this year by a long shot. Tanks and free diving just hasn't been as productive for me this year (mostly north SD, some Point Loma/Cat/SBI). We're heading over this weekend regardless; it's been planned for a while. Hoping for a smooth ride on Saturday even with the 30% chance of rain.

I'd be interested to hear how you go with a 24 pitch 4-blade. I've never tried one but everything I've read says top end suffers while allowing you to plane at a lower speed. A friend just got 41 mph out of a Willard (6BT210) with a Powertech BRS324 17 1/4 x 24. And, I hear you about around the dock...on all 3 props I've tried, I'm 5.0-6.2 mph at idle.
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Shad, the parking guy at Dana on Saturday though that I was you...asked if I "had the new prop yet?"

Let me know how it runs this weekend!
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That's funny. I was running different props last Wednesday, Thursday and again on Friday. Was stopped by Harbor Patrol, DFG, and Homeland Security. Perfect trifecta on law enforcement........

I did run the 18.5X24P 4 blade Hill Cow and it got the RPM right where it needed to be. However, performance on top end was same as the 22P, so most likely going to "ear" the 22P to get some more on top end. Cruise improved almost 10% from the 22P, 26 knots (at 2100 RPM).

I saw 3.8nmpg on the stock Mercury 21P 3 blade aluminum running 76 nautical miles on Thursday (at 2100 RPM). Pretty impressed with the economy of that Cummins and with the boat weighing in at 5,600lbs, seems to crush anything in it's way. Very smooth and balanced. Hard turns causes a little excess vibration since the exhaust goes thru the drive but it is what it is....for now.....

Saturday we hooped for lobster. Started early and finished late. Managed limits for both of us in 65' water and macks. Back in slip at 3:30am. Seemed like the bite has slowed since we haven't changed our game plan since the season opened.

Maybe weather, maybe who knows..........
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No fair it's 30 degrees here... Better get used to being boarded... Nothing like these boats to make friends across the front of an m-60.

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I did run the 18.5X24P 4 blade Hill Cow and it got the RPM right where it needed to be. However, performance on top end was same as the 22P, so most likely going to "ear" the 22P to get some more on top end. Cruise improved almost 10% from the 22P, 26 knots (at 2100 RPM).

I saw 3.8nmpg on the stock Mercury 21P 3 blade aluminum running 76 nautical miles on Thursday (at 2100 RPM). Pretty impressed with the economy of that Cummins and with the boat weighing in at 5,600lbs, seems to crush anything in it's way. Very smooth and balanced. Hard turns causes a little excess vibration since the exhaust goes thru the drive but it is what it is....for now.....

Saturday we hooped for lobster. Started early and finished late. Managed limits for both of us in 65' water and macks. Back in slip at 3:30am. Seemed like the bite has slowed since we haven't changed our game plan since the season opened.
Sounds like you have it figured out.

My calculated slip went up when I went from a 18 1/2 x 21 to a 17 1/4 x 23. Performance is better on average accross the rpm range. Though, I had wondered what a 4-blade would have done - I had always heard that it hurts the top end but reduces mid-range slip. Seems like that's exactly what you found. I'm pretty happy with mine...but, if I were to buy a new prop (again), maybe I'd try a 3-blade 18 1/2 x 22or23.

Sounds like your bug season is going pretty well!!!
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We ran again on Tuesday night for lobster. Tried some shallower spots 35-55' and we had our limits running thru the nets twice. Much better night. We were back at the dock at 9pm. The offer is still open if you want to get in on the hoop net game, we are going to run again on Saturday night. PM me for details.
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We ran again on Tuesday night for lobster. Tried some shallower spots 35-55' and we had our limits running thru the nets twice. Much better night. We were back at the dock at 9pm. The offer is still open if you want to get in on the hoop net game, we are going to run again on Saturday night. PM me for details.
I must be doing it wrong by diving for them...

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