New 41 Footer launched in SF

skisailralph · 06 July 2011, 18:07

We just did a sea trial on the new Protector 41 Footer. Here are the latest photos:

nugent · 09 July 2011, 09:08

um where is them euromillion tickets

jyasaki · 11 July 2011, 15:03

Nice, Ralph.

Congrats.

jky

Zippy · 11 July 2011, 15:21

Love those Protectors!!! very nice! sadly Protector have been Veto's by SWMBO so they are off the list for us!

Bigmuz7 · 20 July 2011, 21:55

LOvely

.. kinda makes you wonder why peeps go to the bother of inboards, when you can see the massive power capable from an out board package, which is so much more easily serviced

quaoar · 13 August 2011, 16:14

Very nice!!

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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

kinda makes you wonder why peeps go to the bother of inboards

Durability (subjective), diesel, and distance traveled per liter of fuel?
No outboard in existance today, will match my Goldfish with diesel engine at fuel consumption at cruising speed.

Alan Priddy · 13 August 2011, 17:39

Not sure about that statement quaoar.
I have just been out in a 10.5 metre Redbay with twin Suzuki 300's. Pulled an easy 50 knots and only burnt 50 gallons per hour. The fuel burn drops dramatically with the speed. It might help if you gave fuel burn per mile to back up your comment. Alan P

Poly · 13 August 2011, 21:55

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Originally Posted by Alan Priddy

only burnt 50 gallons per hour

think that might be the first time I've ever seen the use of only juxtaposed with the rest of that statement!

Bigmuz7 · 13 August 2011, 23:47

Hehe .... he must have got really excited !

quaoar · 14 August 2011, 04:20

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Originally Posted by Alan Priddy

Not sure about that statement quaoar.
I have just been out in a 10.5 metre Redbay with twin Suzuki 300's. Pulled an easy 50 knots and only burnt 50 gallons per hour.

Are you serious?

1 gallon = 3,78541178 litere

I spend 1 liter diesel per nautical mile at 50-55 knots. That works out at 50-55 liters of diesel per hour. Goldfish 29 with 370/380 dmax diesel engine is actually one of the most economical boats you can drive. Well, except for a sailboat

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I've been comparing fuel usage with a lot of other diesel powered boats. Petrol powered boats aren't even comparable. I've got 20+ years of experince with outboard powered boats. I have a friend with a Revenger with twin 250 HP Suzuki and Revenger 32 with twin Yamaha 350 HP engines. The gas usage for the latter is 262 liters per hour at max rpm and those engines are some of the most economical outboards you can have. And still he only travels a little faster than my Goldfish at max rpm and his cruising speed is below my cruising speed.

I can travel almost 600 km on one tank (320 liters).

Hope it helps!

Forgot to add.
In Norway, I can buy diesel at 1 GBP per liter for boat usage, while petrol costs 1,5-1,6 GBP per liter.

In Norway you would have to pay 284 GBP per hour for running your boat at 50 knots. I would get away with 50 GBP. Now how is that for economical boating?!

Question for Alan og Bigmuz. Have you ever owned or used an inboard powered RIB, like a top of the class RIB like a Goldfish?

BogMonster · 14 August 2011, 06:00

1L per mile sounds exceptional for a boat that size though? Very impressive all the same - it would cost less to run than my Vipermax - sadly a bit out of my price range

BTW in the UK 1 gallon = 4.546 litres, 3.7L is the US gallon

Poly · 14 August 2011, 08:28

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Originally Posted by quaoar

Petrol powered boats aren't even comparable.

I can been your fuel ecconomy but not your speed

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Question for Alan. Have you ever owned or used an inboard powered RIB, like a top of the class RIB like a Goldfish?

Have you bothered to look at who "Alan Priddy" is? He's made it particulalrly easy for you by using his real name...

Cookee · 14 August 2011, 08:35

Another one for the inboard diesel side - our twin Yanmar BY260's which are based on the 3 litre BMW block use a maximum of 104 litres per hour at wide open throttle - top speed 65 - 70 mph depending on props, and it's a 3000kg 11 metre overall boat!

Poly · 14 August 2011, 08:44

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Originally Posted by Cookee

Another one for the inboard diesel side - our twin Yanmar BY260's which are based on the 3 litre BMW block use a maximum of 104 litres per hour at wide open throttle - top speed 65 - 70 mph depending on props, and it's a 3000kg 11 metre overall boat!

Is that each or both engines combined?

Either way you've apparently fitted the wrong engines the DMax can do that speed on 1/2 the fuel...

Cookee · 14 August 2011, 08:58

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Originally Posted by Polwart

Is that each or both engines combined?

Either way you've apparently fitted the wrong engines the DMax can do that speed on 1/2 the fuel...

That for both engines combined.

Smaller boat with a higher horsepower single = different equations. Goldfishes did well in the RB08 but trashed a few drives which I believe has been resolved now.

Alan Priddy · 14 August 2011, 10:30

Depends on what the boat is used for but a commercially run petrol boat is cost efficient compared to the cost of a diesel boat. Once you reclaim the tax and duty it works out about 61 pence per litre and going down in price.
For reference, my new boat uses 30000 litres of fuel per 6000 miles which is each fill up. To save working it out that is about 180 litres per hour with an average speed over the distance of 27.4 knots or just over 30 mph if you want to show bigger numbers www.circumnavigationrecord.com . Answer to quaoar. I have no interest in trying or owning a Goldfish but thanks enquiring anyway. BTW. Have you tried the new Redbay 10.5? It's not called the Beast for nothing. Designed as a fast rough weather boat it lives up to it's name Alan P

willk · 14 August 2011, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Alan Priddy

Have you tried the new Redbay 10.5? It's not called the Beast for nothing. Designed as a fast rough weather boat it lives up to it's name Alan P

I have! It isn't! It does!

Nice boat - apparently it's For Sale

quaoar · 14 August 2011, 17:24

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Originally Posted by Polwart

Have you bothered to look at who "Alan Priddy" is? He's made it particulalrly easy for you by using his real name...

Why bother if his comparison on fuel consumption is sky high compared to what I'm experiencing. It was he who asked for some numbers, which for me implies that he actually believed there to be some similiarities with the numbers he presented. *shrug*
My point was that there is a usage for inboard diesel engines, because they are cheap compared to petrol outboards when it comes to paying for fuel.

Also, I do my own engine maintenance. The Yanmar Dmax has no electrical parts and is easily servicable. Dmax is based on Yanmar 6LP diesel engine. You can find engines with 10.000+ hours run time. If your goal for boating is long (seriously long) trips, with low fuel consumption and dead solid engine, then this is something you should look into.
There are downsides, but here we were talking about fuel consumption and then someone brought in arguments about service costs. If someone wants the cons., just ask and I'll give you a list

Just to make it clear, this is my private boat and it's not used for any type of commercial use.

BogMonster · 14 August 2011, 18:27

I think Alan may also have done one or two long-ish trips over the years. You really should Google it

John Kennett · 14 August 2011, 19:54

But he's used diesel RIBs and not outboards for all his major jaunts.

Al, are you confusing the 50 gallons an hour that the Beast drinks with 50 litres an hour for a diesel RIB? Just asking