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Old 01 June 2004, 16:26   #11
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Hi Ribfreak, good looking rig you got there. There is nothing wrong with being a member of the sub 5m club, I regularly throw one around for my sailing club here in Northern Ireland.

I have great memories of sailing on the Dummersee, nice manmade lake. Only 5 feet in depth anywhere you fall in!!!

Dave
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Old 01 June 2004, 17:55   #12
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Hey Phil,

but you`ve got to admit that most of the threads are dealing with problems of boat-classes that a normal human being can not buy due to the constant lack of money.....
Just recently I`ve read about somebody who was asking wether to buy a VOLVO T5, an AUDI Quattro or even a VW Touareg?! Sure, exactly my class, yep- are we having fun here? While we`re just at it: Why not buy a Porsche Cayenne Turbo to tow an also brand new 8-9m RIB with, at least, twin 250hp fourstroke Suzukis behind it? The 450hp of the Porsche should be just sufficient to drag that baby out of the water- or not? Problems over problems- exactly what I`m worrying for day in day out.....

Maybe it`s because all these millionaires have nothing better to do than posting in here while the common employee and member of the sub-5m-class has to work his butt off for them ;-)
Still waving the red flag- at least until I`ve made the first million by myself! ... and don`t take my words too serious on this.....

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Old 01 June 2004, 18:11   #13
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Mein lieber Wolfie, bitte keine Aufregung, es ist alles nur Witz!

By the way, I visit a client occasionally in Flensburg, well Budelsdorf actually -Ahlmann Baumaschinen. I'll pop in and see your RIB next time I'm over
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Old 01 June 2004, 18:21   #14
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Hey Phil,

look at this- that`s a big-one, just chump-change for ya`....

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...480913986&rd=1

Nice lil` boat....
You`re always welcome here, it`s just about 80km up north from Buedelsdorf!

greetings,
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Old 01 June 2004, 18:26   #15
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So, they've got RIBs in Switzerland, eh? Bet you hate them, highest proportion of millionaires per capita this side of Monaco
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Old 02 June 2004, 03:22   #16
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Davies you know the only reason you go out to Germany is for your regular visit to Madam Helgars house of pain

Ribfreak...... I can answer pretty much all of your questions as i've pretty much rebuilt my entire boat....i bought mine about a year ago for not much money, the boat and engine are almost 15 years old and everything that could go wrong has gone wrong, first the fuel tank, then the engine, and the latest thing is the transom which i had replaced, the engine was rebuilt and now gets me about 30 knots on a flat sea with just me aboard.

mine was very faded too when i bought it, you can clean the tubes with cheap cream cleaner and a nylon pad, its hard work but eventually you will get something like the original colour back, have someone who knows what they are doing look at the tube repairs and others here will be able to advise you about removing the antifoul from the hull !

Let me know how you get on.
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Old 02 June 2004, 04:08   #17
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Hello BilgeRat,

that sounds really normal to me, exactly the way I can afford a RIB! Mine was also not expensive and so far is doing well, no real problems.... I`m very interested in bringing a little more original color back on the tubes, so, please, tell me more about that cleaner-polish-varnish-detergent that you`ve used- what brand is it? Just remember that it is much more difficult to get products for inflatables over here in Germany because they`re not that widely spread! I don`t actually need to repair the tubes, I just had to take off the handles on both sides close to the transom because my A-frame is very close to the tubes and I want to be able to fold it down-forward for putting a canvas over the boat! Wouldn`t make much sense to re-polish the tubes and then leave them in the sun uncovered, wouldn`t it?
Mine is doing almost 40 knots with the Honda, but it starts to feel a little over-powered (or better: over weighted at the stern?) atop of 33kn- I`ve installed some fins on the lower-unit, normally they`ll only cost you some topspeed but in this case may help stabilizing the boat a little bit more and I have some knots to spend for that, don`t wanna do more than 35kn, that`s enough....

greetings,
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Old 02 June 2004, 07:13   #18
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Ribfreak

Try using CIF to scrub your tubes, it should be available in any german supermarket, and you need to apply it with a nylon scouring pad, beware though there's only so many times you can drag the colour back so dont over do it too much...... the cleaners your'll get in any chandlers will only remove dirt and grim from the tubes, if they are sun faded as mine were this was the only way i was able to get the boat from a salmon pink colour back to some sort of orange.
Its also worth having a good look at your transom too, mine had been soaking up water for what must have been years and was rotten through, you have max engine weight and HP on yours so you need to make sure the transom is in A1 condition or your'll have problems...... to check lower the engine and by getting a good hold on it try and lift it, the transom should not flex or give, if it does waters soaked inside probably.

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Old 02 June 2004, 07:16   #19
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Also worth having a good look over the trailer too, the pic you posted looks ok but its worth investing in some new bearings and checking all the joints and u bolts for corrosion, cant be anything worse than spending lots of time renervating your boat only to lose it down the Autobarhn
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Old 02 June 2004, 13:24   #20
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Hello BilgeRat,
I already checked the trailer, it`s fine and although it doesn`t look so it`s only 4 years old, so no probs there.... The transom is always a point of concern, I`ve already recognized that it moves just a little, little bit sometimes but I think this is because the enormous weight of that Honda Civic- engine in an outboard dress! When I recall it correctly it weighs 183kg, which is really enough for this transom without any rot at all! The boat was always stored on its trailer in a garage, so there has possibly no soaking or rotting occured so far! What is remarkable is that somebody once installed an elephant-trouser for draining the hull and the cut-out hole through the transom is the one and only place where the former owner (remember the guy with the silicone-gun?!) hasn`t sealed with this fuckin` stuff- this was the only place he should have done so!!!!
I`ll go out now and do the transom-test.... results later!

greetings,
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