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Old 05 March 2003, 07:36   #11
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Hi Julian

Thanks!! That was quick lolol
Any way I think that the price is a VERY BIG stopper as well as the 2 berth cabin. 4 berth (for my needs) would had been better.
The boat looks good and I assume that is now seaworthy after the face lifts. It must have some short of certification or something!!

The pitfalls of the boat for me (only a personal opinion) on this one are:

1. PRICE
I hear what you say about the best wiring, fittings etc that money can buy. I have done my research and wiring, switches, fibre glass and Hypalon tubes don't cost as much as people think they cost. i.e. ORCA Hypalon for a 10 mtr boat inc fitting will cost you 5,000 the very maximum with double padding.
I have collected a price list for all the materials (1st class materials and the BEST you can get ranging from fibre glass to switches and waterproof carpets and upholstery) one uses to build a RIB and it looks that if you exclude engines, labour cost and profit for a RIB with Net Hull Weight of say 2,500 kgs it shouldn't be more that 15,000 or near this figure give or take 2-3,000 (cost of materials ONLY for full spec inc anchor winch, chains, anchors, ropes, lights, VHF, GPS, A-frame, bimini, sink, hot cold pressurised water, generator, air con, shore power supply, 2(+1 spare) engine bats and 1 domestic bat, hydraulic steering system, steering wheel, cockpit visor, fw and fuel tanks etc etc and ex engines) the very maximum. So one should expect to pay something like between 25-30,000 for a new 10 mtr hull ex engines.

[B]2. The Cat B or C issue still remains[B/]

3. SEA KEEPING
I think is good too and due to the narrow beam much better from the MOSTRO I'm interested in I recon. Will try to see if I can get onboard a 7.50 SCORPION for a ride when I'm in Greece next week. But as I said is an expensive boat so.......

Any way I think I said enough about this and possibly I may have upset a few people and I am truly sorry if I did. Is just that when I fork out of my pocket a large lump sum of money to buy something being a bicycle or a boat I want to know that I got the best value for money there is.
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Old 05 March 2003, 08:14   #12
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Cabin Rib

Manos

I agree completely, when its your money its entirely up to you what you buy etc. I also agree that they are a lot of money and if you look at the other side for that money you could buy a nice sunseeker or fairline etc. Its a tricky one and one that only you can decide on.

P.S I dontthink you would have upset any one mate.

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Old 05 March 2003, 08:35   #13
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Manos, depends which country your thinking of with the labour costs. Skilled labour is of course much more expensive here than in a lot of other countries.

But yeah, the cost is very high, but hell, if I had that sort of money doing nothing, I'd buy one without even thinking!

Matt (someone should design a cabin SIB, much cheaper) Brown
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Old 05 March 2003, 08:36   #14
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I agree with this statement!! lolol
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Old 11 March 2003, 14:34   #15
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Sir you big show off

Some of us where to busy re-decorating the lounge to go and play in the lovely weather. But fingers crossed, sunday should see me out

But someone lovely shots sir, but when i'm out and about i'll have the camera and get some of you from sea level

Keep it up good sir
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Old 12 March 2003, 03:40   #16
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Re: A question

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I I am asking all these questions because I am thinking (seriously) to buying a cabin RIB. SCORPION was one of the makes I am considering as well as MOSTRO 10 mtrs (which has a 4 berth cabin and comes 1st in my list right now and will test it in Greece next week) and a few Italian boats which although they look nice they are overpriced.
Manos, you said Italian boats were good in the harbour but they should be left there as they are crap build q and crap seakeeping! come on laddy, make your mind up!

A fountain of knowledge like yourself shouldn't keep changing your mind, you'll confuse people, especially as your charging for this "knoweledge" now!
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(someone should design a cabin SIB, much cheaper)

Someone already has. I think its called a liferaft.
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Old 12 March 2003, 09:34   #18
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Try the Tinker tramp, they do a version with inflatable cabin.
not my first choice, but then I wasn't looking for one!
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