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Old 02 November 2014, 05:20   #11
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This sounds like an ideal venue for the Scottish S*IB trip. Option to turn left and go out to sea or right. But is there any issue if 20 people turn up to WildCamp

Good question Shinyshoe .. technically the land access code of scotland is..

Wild camping is lightweight, done in small numbers and only for two or three nights in any one place. You can camp in this way wherever access rights apply but help to avoid causing problems for local people and land managers by not camping in enclosed fields of crops or farm animals and by keeping well away from buildings, roads or historic structures. Take extra care to avoid disturbing deer stalking or grouse shooting. If you wish to camp close to a house or building, seek the owner's permission. Leave no trace by:
taking away all your litter
removing all traces of your tent pitch and of any open fire (follow the guidance for lighting fires)
not causing any pollution.

As for 20 or so folks descending on Rhub Bharr for one night.. I don’t think anyone will bother.. but its not my say.. I don’t own the land. There is one house around half a mile away..but its not always inhabited. However there are conditions.. as even I would bother if 20 ribnetters arrived and left a huge pile of rubbish behind them.. but that wont happen.. we are all responsible people.

I have seen several large groups of campers there at the one time.. more often than not ... there is no one or one or two. I often burn rubbish left by others or carry it out with me. I crap below high water mark so twice a day number twos are washed away. .and I don’t make stone fire rings...although I will use existing ones

Five miles away..in the beautiful Glen Etive.. there are hundreds of car campers every weekend and they leave a terrible mess..that is what locals object to.

Possibly what may upset locals more is twenty SIBS with engines screaming ..going flat out and making a loud noise resonating in the glen. If there are that many coming.. and want to go fast ... I would perhaps recommend the sea.. rather than the confines of the loch.
I will post a possible trip from Oban to Easdale after this one.
Im only making suggestions. Choice is open to others
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Old 02 November 2014, 05:42   #12
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The deer stalker at Dalness is a good pal of mine, Dalness Estate own a good part of the shore of Etive.

Might be handy.
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Old 02 November 2014, 08:35   #13
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Continuing with the adventure...

The two bushwhackers and I continued with our probing conversation.. I guessed we were trying to sus each other out. I’m a fit and quite large 60 year old.. they were half my age and there were two of them so I thought that if our word exchange came to a fist exchange.. they may have the upper hand.

An mentioned earlier..I live by my natural instincts ..but fight or flight didn’t seen natural in this occasion. The bushwhackers turned the conversation to fishing. I decided it was best to fish.. so I laid the bait.

I said “ Hey guys.. I don’t have much beer..but you are welcome to share my last tin of Guinness between you. (I knew I was lying..I had a stash in the tent.. but now wasn’t the time to admit that)

BW(bushwhacker) “Hey that is decent of you mate..we don’t mind sharing it”

I handed over the tin

TG(Gurnard) “That’s a nice looking knife in your sheath..have not seen one like that since my mate Bowie died.”

BW “Yup..its a beaut.. six inch blade..its hard getting knives like that now.”

BW “Nice boat you got in the river.. would love a boat like that”


I quickly summed up the situation. Im in the middle of nowhere.. an old guy sleeping alone ..and my new neighbours are bushwhackers !?

Best bet for survival is reel them in now..or they may come back later when Im sleeping and help themselves to the boat or worse .. the stashed beer. I thought of the movie “Deliverance” and realised they could even try to help themselves to more... they looked the type ?

Yup.. its a good boat.. and Im thinking of having a last hours fishing before turning in for the night.. wanna come ? I have a spare fishing rod.


BW “ Wow.. you would do that for us mister ? ..that would be great”


I now felt any tense situation had gone.. they had swallowed my bait..hook line and sinker. Best to be friendly with the bushwhackers than risk them mugging me in the dark.

I took them for an hours fishing. I didn’t have any spare life jackets..but made it clear..I was not responsible for any drowning that may occur. I asked if they could both swim. One said yes..the other said he could not . ..so I gave him mine to wear. So please don’t post that there are no life jackets in this photo. I know there is not. I ticked all risk assessment boxes and decided there was no risk to them.. but there could be risk to me or my possessions if I didn’t take them fishing within easy reach of the shore.. in a flat calm ..and travelling at displacement speed. Besides if someone was to drown.. I would rather it was a bushwhacker with a six inch knife than innocent old me.


The two guys were delighted when they caught a nice coddling for their supper.





We babbled until the sun started to set.. then landed again.





I bid them a good night and retired to my tent..to drink some more of my stash on my own. They disappeared into the trees.

I slept in peace and in the morning.. was delighted to see the SIB was still there.. and I had no pain in my piles.



But somehow..I didn’t think I had seen the last of the bushwhackers.

To be continued......
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Glad that you didn't hear the sound of duelling banjos coming from the woods as you slept Gurnard
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But is there any issue if 20 people turn up to WildCamp
Thats why we have the other thread running to get some idea of numbers, so we can select sites likely to cause the least disturbance to others anyway; and or split into multiple groups, or use more organised facilities etc.
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Im sure you would have no problem talking to bushwhackers either Poly.

To finish this adventure..

Sure enough.. the two guys came back in the morning.

This time it wasn’t a “ Hey mister ..what ya doing greeting” it was a pleasant.. “Hi Gurnard ..lovely morning ..wanna come and see our camp” kind of greeting. So I said .. “Ok.. lets see where you are at guys”

I followed them into the trees and was welcomed into their camp site. They showed me some of the things they had made..and said it was their “craft”.
I asked..”What craft ?”
“Bush Craft Gurnard..we told you last night.. we are Bush Crafters”



It was then that I realised my mistake..
My night cap can sometimes give me cloth ears if I partake in a little too much.

I spent another couple of days camping near my new neighbours.. and during that time I took them a sight see tour of the Loch.. just like Im doing for you guys just now.


















Of course..this tour is just touching the tip of the iceberg. There is far more to see. Launching at Taynuilt..going to the far north east end.. back down through the narrows ..across Airds bay and down to the Falls of Lora then back to Taynuilt is a total of 33 miles. If you land and explore ..stop for picnics..wild camp..fish..you can easly spend a week there without getting bored. I know..because I do it often :-D

Thanks for reading..and I hope you found this adventure of interest.
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Another fantastic thread and again superb pics Gurnard, and I'm glad that those Bushwhackers turned out to be Bushcrafters

I'm sure that you slept better on the second night knowing that
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Great stuff Gurnard; love it.

As I get older I often have to remind myself not to judge people on face value. Appearances are USUALLY deceptive....

Your words and pics are fantastic and I know from personal experience just how fast the water recedes over the falls of Lora.
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Great story Gurnard.I remember doing the same trip 25 yrs ago it brought back a lot of memories,especially when we pulled up to one deserted beach and I thought this is a long,long way from habitation when two elderly tweed clad ladies came strolling past ,bid us a hearty good morning and yomped away.My wife and I just stared after them then burst out laughing.
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