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Old 25 October 2013, 20:16   #1
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How to recover RIB in chop

I popped down the beach earlier and asked the owner of a local Safety boat service if I could film them recovering there rib, no problem I was told, so for the interest of anyone who's unfamilar with recovering in a chop, these lads show how its done very well.

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Old 25 October 2013, 20:48   #2
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No wonder that Land Rovers are all rusted out!
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I was kind of thinking the same thing. Great recovery but the car did get a bit wet!
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They make it look so easy. I can imagine what would happen if I tried that.
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Made it look easy but who's maintaining the car ?

I'm obviously doing it all wrong when I manually push my trailer into the water and drag it out with a rope/strap so that I don't get my car wheels wet

Has anybody noticed the shiny showroom condition of tractors left at the coast to launch the fishing boats.. ?
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title 'how to trash your car whilst trying to look macho' totally unnecessary and in my view unprofessional
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So we can watch a boat drive onto a trailer and then the trailer be pulled out the water... so what? What do they actually do thats any different to what I do every time I put a boat on a trailer (apart from half drowning the car)?
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This is an example of the absolute worst way to recover a boat, especially with choppy seas.
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title 'how to trash your car whilst trying to look macho' totally unnecessary and in my view unprofessional

For goodness sakes this video isn't aboat being macho, Its aboat real life situations that these lads and I'm sure some others go through every day in the proffessional world, yes its not good for the average vehicle to attempt this without a very good washing down after, which is what these lads do, they must be doing something right they've had that vehicle for over 5yrs. Do you really think the service he provides to oil industry is cheap, this isn't his only vehicle or RIB btw, he's a very experienced and successful businessman, He's also responsible for saving many lives at sea as an ex LB COX. what he don't know about the sea aint worth knowing.

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This is an example of the absolute worst way to recover a boat, especially with choppy seas.
You must be right then, please show me an example of how it should be done, and I shall pass the information on to him, what would he know anyway? probably just a fluke ah! not to worry, I'm sure he'll be delighted to learn how its done properly.
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Dhf, you should've known that when you posted this on here you would have got replies from the... "they who know best squad"
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Dhf, you should've known that when you posted this on here you would have got replies from the... "they who know best squad"
Yeah I know mate.
still I think this vid gives an insight to some, who may need to use this method of recovery themselves, I've used this method myself in various boats, its quit a challenge for the helm, once your lined up, and time it just right with the wave pattern, gently with the throttle, engine tilted as much as useably posible, quick blat once you feel the rollers, tap the trailer stock,fix to trailer, thumbs up to vehicle driver and away to go, but I'm sure many of you old pro's on here already know that, and for any newbies wishing to try, do be carefull every beach is different, this beach is very compact with slight cross current.
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well maybe he should google 'salt water corrosion' it doesnt matter how many lives he may have saved, his car will still rot - and fast. if the vehicle were to break down whilst the tide was rising then theres a good chance of losing it. if he wants to do it then fine, but dont go encouraging others to follow his lead. length of rope is the way to do it
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We do much the same when recovering to a beach ... but with a long rope between the trailer and the car. The car never goes in the water.
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length of rope is the way to do it
Or if you do it regularly then a 'draw bar extension bar'.
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Or if you do it regularly then a 'draw bar extension bar'.
Especially if the trailer is unbraked.
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Yeah I know mate.
still I think this vid gives an insight to some, who may need to use this method of recovery themselves, I've used this method myself in various boats, its quit a challenge for the helm, once your lined up, and time it just right with the wave pattern, gently with the throttle, engine tilted as much as useably posible, quick blat once you feel the rollers, tap the trailer stock,fix to trailer, thumbs up to vehicle driver and away to go, but I'm sure many of you old pro's on here already know that, and for any newbies wishing to try, do be carefull every beach is different, this beach is very compact with slight cross current.
Personally, I try to get the trailer square on to waves and that is half the battle, it just leaves dealing with the wind and controlling the entry speed to try and avoid getting thrown onto the trailer by the waves. I certainly wouldn't put my vehicle in the sea. On my trailers, I have a post ahead and above the winch that is high enough to throw the painter round from the RIB to secure it as quickly as possible and get it out of the water and then secure it properly once ashore.
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tried the method shown in the vid, tried the draw bar extension bar, tried the long rope method, best so far is the tractor launch and recovery provided Chris n the lads at Ty Calch nr Caernarfon, don't even get me tyres wet anymore
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Or if you do it regularly then a 'draw bar extension bar'.
Does anyone over "there" user a trailer tongue extension? Mine is around 15ft to keep the surge far away from my aluminum wheels.
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well maybe he should google 'salt water corrosion' it doesnt matter how many lives he may have saved, his car will still rot - and fast. if the vehicle were to break down whilst the tide was rising then theres a good chance of losing it. if he wants to do it then fine, but dont go encouraging others to follow his lead. length of rope is the way to do it
If the vehicle where to break down, he would call one of his other employee's or friends, if he tries pushing the trailer in, there's a good chance it would get washed back in, or the boat just pushes the trailer, instead of climbing on from the thrust of engine, also at no point did I try encouraging others to try this method, the fact is the man has other vessels to attend, and no time for messing about with ropes, especially when he has a team of lads including engineers to look after his fleet.

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Or if you do it regularly then a 'draw bar extension bar'.
That's an idea I'm working on at the moment for my trailer, I can't afford to pay others to clean and maintain unfortunately.

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Personally, I try to get the trailer square on to waves and that is half the battle, it just leaves dealing with the wind and controlling the entry speed to try and avoid getting thrown onto the trailer by the waves. I certainly wouldn't put my vehicle in the sea. On my trailers, I have a post ahead and above the winch that is high enough to throw the painter round from the RIB to secure it as quickly as possible and get it out of the water and then secure it properly once ashore.
This mans got the hang of it, I guess you have someone to stabilise the trailer whilst the rib is winched or powered on.

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tried the method shown in the vid, tried the draw bar extension bar, tried the long rope method, best so far is the tractor launch and recovery provided Chris n the lads at Ty Calch nr Caernarfon, don't even get me tyres wet anymore
Must agree I've only seen footage of the fantastic service this man offers, it's definitely the way to go.
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at no point did I try encouraging others to try this method,
That's not quite how it reads from the thread title though. Maybe you would have had a more positive reaction if it wasn't posted as a "how to" video!
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