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Originally posted by Manos
RW I would like to thank you for your 'very constructive' and 'highly technical' comments which incidently I beleive must come from your years of 'extenssive experience, education and hard work' on laminating issues when building, repairing and producing boats by proxy I may add.
May I ask then, if you are another 'expert' like many around the World may I ask if you have any qualifications or experience or expetise even on these matters to substantiate your comments?
Would be very interested to know!!
VERY SAD!!
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Here we go Again!
I replied to almost the exact smokescren on boatmad and you well know what my answer was then, but in case your memory is as limited as your ability to be accurate then I will reiterate.
Yes I do know quite a bit about laminating, I put myself through college working in a GRP shop, building boats water tanks and TV scenery and later worked for Scott Bader. It's unpleasant work and the stuff is itchy and gets everywhere hence I have a lot of respect for good laminators
Then and now if I produce something I really do try to make it right. I am not or never was a boat builder or designer just done a fair bit of laminating, albeit 20 years ago
The lack of craftsmanship is obvious in the picture of the hull, but mostly the things that concern me are the fixings of the Longits and side strengthening Ribs. These should be straight and well held down.
The fact that they are not straight indicates a lack of craftsmanship and an out of sight out of mind mentality
The GRP (Glass Reinforced Plastic) process involves crushing a mat of chopped micro glass tubes with a roller/brush and filling and surrounding them with a resin which sets hard. This resin has a cure time which is variable with heat and temperature. So work has to be both quickish and of high quality.
This can also be done using a machine than chops the strand filament and then sparys it on mixed with resin
The resin is brittle without the Glass and likewise the Glass is only cloth without the Resin.
You have a layer of Gell coat (shiny stuff) which goes in the mould first and then the layup is attached to the Gell coat. you would put in a few layers of Layup resin and CSM before the ribbing.
These layers are called laminations and if the bonding between the layers isn't of high quality then the boat should be subject to delamination, and that's why I wouldn't buy a Falcon based on that picture as I can't see the laminator did a good job
No amount of Flo Coating will solve that problem!
I must say that if you can't see the lack of quality for yourself then you really are obtuse.
People come to this Forum for advice and guidance and to either give or gain knowledge and it's important to me that the information they are given is accurate cos there life may depend on it.
Why can't you just say yep it was a bad effort but they do it right nowadays. To continually defend that level of quality does not enhance your own or Falcon's reputation
