Flying Falcon - Page 14

Manos · 18 January 2004, 19:22

Hi Luise!!

Thanks! This is not Santorini but Cape Sounion (a little bay just 100 mtrs from my house). The weather has been great (so far!!).
Going to Santorini on the RIB next weekend and hopefully will get more photos on the way there and back (180+ miles in total)

simmons0 · 18 January 2004, 19:30

Yes i did have a look at the exite range. (thats your boat) And Colin said it was pretty much a race boat that could fly through chop but it would be a hard ride at it struggles in a big swell.

Its not just that, the 575 has an enormous internal length for its size and i particulary like the full length storage channel, that will house the fuel tank, meaning we get access to it at a later date and enought room at the front and rear of the boat to take skis, wakeboard and a few dry bags.

Falcon have a right to boast, its probably the best enginered boat we've been to see so far.

A-frame - much smaller height wise than all other boat builders, means i can fit it under my parents garage, also its bolted down into the hull and has a towing pole on the very top for skiing/wakeboarding.

seating - Drivers bench seat has a hinged backrest. Such a simple idea but it means you can anchor up andflick the backrest over and sit facing backwards talking to people in the back.
The rear seats backrest is attached to the a-frame and is height adjustable and removable. Rear seat is hinged and flips up to reveal access hatches to the bilge at the back.

I could go on, its a very very well thought about boat. Anyone thinking of a new boat go and see Falcon/ rib-x.

The Jackeens · 18 January 2004, 19:37

So what are you going for this time on the back ??

Am surprised at having a bench seat and not jockies for the driver.

Have you got a quote yet and how those it compare to the prosport which was around the 13k mark I think

Paul

Manos · 18 January 2004, 19:44

I understand what you say Simmon. I wanted seats with side supports on mine hence the middle seat has a fixed back rather than the removable. The rear seat on mine comes completely off if you wan to race the boat and the A-frame too.

I don't think that my boat gives a hard ride on a swell. However, I haven't been at sea state more than 1.5-2 mtr high waves. There I could do 30 knots and it was relatively comfortable. The trick with my boat is to keep it on the plane at all times otherwise the ride is harsh. On the plane you get no spray on the deck and it flyies.

But any way hope to see you in Les Arc so we can chat about the boats and skiing LOL

simmons0 · 18 January 2004, 19:47

Falcon don't make jockeys. Rib-x do but they are an expensive option only available with the wider console, also an expenisive option. Ive given a lot of thought to it and ribeye have pretty well stopped jockeys as have zodiac on most of their ribs.

Going to have a suzuki 115.

As for the prosport Jasons 13k was excluding VAT, and at the time of order he decided the price was infact £14500 ex VAT.
Thats 17k for a boat that was not finished to the same standard as a Falcon.

There was a 5 month old prosport 8.5m in the rib-x unit and it was a mess. Does anyone know who's it is?

simmons0 · 18 January 2004, 19:49

I was told it gave a very very good ride in 1 metre chop.
In a big swell it is not possible to plane all the time and that is where a race boat suffers from a hull meant to go very fast.

Manos · 18 January 2004, 19:51

Yep Agree on that one Simmon

The Jackeens · 18 January 2004, 19:54

how much for the falcon have been looking at their site

It may be the one thast had a hole in the side after a crash. I remember something about it

Manos · 18 January 2004, 20:02

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Originally posted by jackeen
how much for the falcon have been looking at their site

Paul it all depends on the opions you have on it. In general all Falcon boats are priced VERY competitively! Pitty they don't make anything over 7 mtrs (hint, hint, hint!!).

I KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING!

simmons0 · 18 January 2004, 20:03

He wants £17500 for the falcon.

its not the prosport that had the crash, that was a 9 metre.

This one is an example of friday afternoon workmanship. I wont go into any more detail because it will cause a lot of trouble.

The Jackeens · 18 January 2004, 20:22

Hi the boat is £8070 +vat

a suzuki is apx £6,500 retail

am I missing something

simmons0 · 18 January 2004, 20:40

Well the boat is ex VAT as you say. That takes it up to £9500

The suzuki i believe was 8k Your price inc VAT comes to £7500

So thats 17k and you havent got a trailer.

The Jackeens · 18 January 2004, 21:00

motor is inclusive of vat

I kinda thought that as a package there would be a significant discount.

And being a falcon would be cheaper than some/most brands but seems on a par

Also resale might be LOW being a falcon

Manos · 18 January 2004, 21:05

Price one pays for a middle man but also the safety of a rep that is in the UK (if you don't want to take the risk and import it your self from SAfrica direct).

The Jackeens · 18 January 2004, 21:07

Manos how much to import from RSA

Manos · 18 January 2004, 21:17

Paul I think is fair that Pieter replys on this one as prices may have changed since I bought my boat and ordered my boats

Manos · 19 January 2004, 10:02

The TYamaha 200 HPDI I hear consumes same as a 130. Great engine for a great boat!!

Daniel · 19 January 2004, 18:52

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Originally posted by Manos
The TYamaha 200 HPDI I hear consumes same as a 130.

I would say far, far less Manos. I owned a Yam 130 old-tech 2s and have been on 'Blue Ice' with Richard B on a long distance jaunt and it was far more efficient.

Manos · 19 January 2004, 18:56

Really?? That is unbelivable!!
Daniel I have heard so many good things about this engine that is in my mind to change mine. But just waiting in case Yamaha comes up with something better in the 2-stroke department

simmons0 · 19 January 2004, 18:57

How much more fuel do you guys think a suzuki 115 will use compared with suzuki 90?