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Old 01 July 2004, 09:16   #21
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This is what I've got delivered!!
Luckaly I had the boat insured during transit. However, both surveyors who surveyed the damage said that Strapping was poor and many other comments that I do not wish to mention.
Hope you forgive me all but I'm busy trying to short the insurance out and get the business going.
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Old 01 July 2004, 09:18   #22
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This should had been 1st
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Old 01 July 2004, 16:26   #23
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Very sad to see this, Manos. Hope you get it all sorted soon.
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Old 01 July 2004, 17:14   #24
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that Strapping was poor and many other comments that I do not wish to mention
sorry manos we are a bit clueless!! whot coments dont you wish to mention?
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Old 02 July 2004, 02:27   #25
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Orange you are pussing it so I'll be streight without any 'hidden extras'

Chips of the gell coat on 3 points on the deck of this boat
Oiled floor or heavily marked with balack boots floor
All the straps that hold the boat on the traler broken
One huch chippoed and heavily marked (actually I think that bwas second hand)
The white (light grey tubes) marked with balck stains. The reason I was insisiting for darker colours was that light grey gets very dirty easily but ............. some one new better. Well now I should ask FALCON to come here and use TOLUENE to clean them since they stained them.
Unsecured (unstrapped) battery boxes an all boats with no provision for safety straps
The trailer wheel arch (port side) bent
No boat water stopper things (I looked everywhere this time found only one but there suppose to be 3) No spares either on any boat!!
The material and glue that we've got for repairs is a joke quantity wise. One box with about 10grms if that of glue and just 30cm of material (and is only light grey where as the boats are blue and grey)
Is been a nightmare with everything so far ............ with everything!! Never expeted it!
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Old 02 July 2004, 03:31   #26
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.... and a chip from the floor (one of them there are 5 in total)
This is suppose to be a brand new boat still in plastic wrap.
Is my opinion and the surveyors opinion (two of them one from the carriers and one from my insurance) is that the way the boaring ladder was stored (without been wrapped in protective wrap like before it chipped the floor in the various transhipment areas that the container with my boat went).
The surveyors informed me (although I knew this before they said anyhting to me) that the damage with the engine (broken tail fin, bent pro axle, bent prop) occured because instead of the engine been storred in the container in an angle position away from the floor and the prop been protected by a protective wrap or removed (that would have been the professional thing to do) it was stored completly vertical just centimeters from the floor. How stupid and ignorant one can be. This world is fully of B@^# experst that know B@$#all about anything......
Now I have to wait for 2-3 weeks for this damage to be repaired losing revenue once again!!!
THANKS MR Orange
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Old 02 July 2004, 05:36   #27
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I'm very sorry to here this Manos, but I have to say that this is what you can expect from SA, they really don't know much about packing up a container

I have seen the same thing happening to many of the shipments my dealer recieved from SA. You really need to tell them how to pack it. But I think you are right, have Falcon come to Greece and fix the problem, this is the only way they will know how to do it the next time

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Old 02 July 2004, 07:38   #28
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Louise and Rene thanks guys.

NEVER AGAIN RENE
Got my lesson (a very expenssive one!!) and we have decided that instead of buying a boat cheap better to pay an extra 5,000 Euro or so buy it from Europe, have it with hypallon tubes so it can be re-sold without any problems than losing 60,000 and 70,000 Euro in revenue and not to be able to re-sell the boats quick enough.

It is very strange, in the previous shipment the engines were stored in an angle and there was no chance for a damage. Boats were fastened well with lots and lots of steal wire (although aparently I was told by both surveyors that this is very wrong way to do it but there you go). Where as in this shipment everything was wrong and the result can been seen clearly.

I should have listened to Charles!
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Old 02 July 2004, 07:45   #29
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I don't think so Rene although thanks mate. I'm so P@#$ OFF that have no energy for anything. Just send two peope who wanted to charter the boats away.
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Old 02 July 2004, 09:25   #30
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Further to the posts by Manos the final straw has now been drawn!

The leg does not exist in Greece, YAMAHA Greece, is emailing Japan to see in which country (poss Italy) they have a spare availiable to send here. According to YAMAHA it may take a while to have the engine leg delivered in Greece.

Our insurance Commercial Union in Greece has been great. They surveyed the container on the spot when the damage was notified to them (went there in 2 hours from the time they were given notice by our rep who was taking delivery), came and surveyed the damage on the engine once again yesterday with a surveyor from the carriers AND paid for the engine leg inc all other damages to the boat without any hasle what so ever. We thank them very much.
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