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Old 20 May 2006, 06:15   #1
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500 hp

Someone was asking about H.P. On ballistics this ones got 500 on the back. Carrying 12 with 500 l in it. The only H.P. limiting factor is space on the back: thumbs:

Canít wait for the 350 hp etec v8 it will look very nice on the back x 2
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Old 20 May 2006, 11:03   #2
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That is one kitted out rib, do you know what its top speed is?
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Old 20 May 2006, 13:08   #3
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Riva,

I think the discussion about the HP was if it could/should be approved for the RCD if the engine size was greater than the maximum given in the other formula...

presumably space is NOT the only issue as to how much horse power is safe to put on a ballistic (or any other boat). That presumably is determined by the ability of the transom (and other load bearing components) to cope with the thrust, as well as the liklihood of chine walking etc.

Are you able to shed light on how you get RCD approval if the engine is greater than the formula in the ISO standard?
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who gives a fck - awesome rib.
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who gives a fck - awesome rib.
It's a valid and pragmatic point of view - look at Ferryman RIBs - they had all the bits of paper for RCD approval, didn't stop the thing breaking up!
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Someone was asking about H.P. On ballistics this ones got 500 on the back. Carrying 12 with 500 l in it. The only H.P. limiting factor is space on the back: thumbs:

Canít wait for the 350 hp etec v8 it will look very nice on the back x 2
Are they really bringing out those engines or are they just rumours? I know V8 outboards aren't exactly new but there doesn't seem to be much sign of anyone doing a V8 these days.
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straight from the horses mouth (aka searider) - ISO regs state that as long as the boat can pass a sea trial to the required standard, the formula means diddly squat and even if it fails, all that is needed to be compliant is a sticker on the console warning of this fact...
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If you're not interested don't post... ...I believe RIVA was following up on another thread.
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I'm not disputing that for 1 minute and if my budget stretched that far the Balistic would be on my list of potentials.
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look at Ferryman RIBs - they had all the bits of paper for RCD approval, didn't stop the thing breaking up!
I think that is precisely the point. It seems reasonable to assume that if it is CE marked to a particular directive and standard that it meets that standard and directive. In another thread on here it was suggested that the Ballistic RIBS could not possibly do this as they exceeded the maximum stated HP in the ISO standard - it would be interesting (to me - and if individuals find this then there are numerous other threads to post in!) to hear how a manufacturer/supplier decides on the max HP for a hull - especially if this isn't just a simple formula like the ISO standard suggests.
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straight from the horses mouth (aka searider) - ISO regs state that as long as the boat can pass a sea trial to the required standard, the formula means diddly squat and even if it fails, all that is needed to be compliant is a sticker on the console warning of this fact...
I really think that you should get the fact straits regarding this.

The issue was regarding if the boat could be CE marked within regulations.

And you are partly correct that you could CE mark a boat with a HP larger than the formula in the other thread. But if you read this thread you would also see that there are a number of things that are needed to be able to use the sea-trail instead off the formula.

And one off these things is, that it is the builder of the boat, who are to supply the boat with consoles, engines and seats as a key finished product. And it is the builderís responsibility to make this sea-trail.

Boating dynamics do not supply the boat as key finished.
Boating dynamics do not supply the engine.
Boating dynamics is not responsible for the CE marking, because they are not selling the boat in Europe, JBT marine is.

I know that the former inporter of Balistic in Europe made his own CE marking of the Balistic and that the max HP on this was 225 HP, I don't know how this was obtained, but I could find out.


The max HP on Boating dynamics homepage is "just" a number which the claime that the boat can handle without breaking to pieces.

I for one would like to try out at Balistic 7.8 with 2*250 HP on the back, providing that I get to drive to boat. That way I can back off when it gets to scarry.

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hears one with 500+hp tops out just over 90mph
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