Wanted Trailer for 10M RIB Wanted

farmerrenton · 13 September 2012, 01:02

Looking for a tri axle trailer to take my 10m Humber Cabin RIB

Got one for sale?, let me know, doesn't need to be in mint condition1

Cheers

Simon

Cookee · 13 September 2012, 07:12

I think it would have to be made of air to get that rig under 3500 kgs!

SW Boat Transport · 13 September 2012, 10:41

We could supply you with a new tri axle roller coaster for £4250 + VAT. If you are interested please give me a call on 07813 833728 and we can discuss further.

Michael

willk · 13 September 2012, 11:17

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Originally Posted by Cookee

I think it would have to be made of air to get that rig under 3500 kgs!

Does he need to be under 3500kg?

Crusher · 13 September 2012, 12:04

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Originally Posted by willk

Does he need to be under 3500kg?

Didn't say he wanted to tow it on public roads, so no it doesn't.

farmerrenton · 13 September 2012, 12:26

Hi all, to clarify, the trailer needs to be road legal to transport it to our base on the Isle of Mull (just trailer, no boat on it), then it will be used to recover the boat onto hard standing and may, sometimes be towed to our workshop (short distance by road) by either a Landrover or Tractor (dependent on weight and distance)
Cheers
Simon

Rogue Wave · 14 September 2012, 16:44

I'd be seriously looking at an american Ali trailer if I was you. You can pick one up in mint condition that will suit your requirements and the build is far superior than a UK trailer. Theyare light and have a hugh capacity. a 1 ton trailer usually carries 4.5 ton

EZ Loader Karavan are two makes that come to mind but there a quite a few others

Cookee · 15 September 2012, 08:04

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Originally Posted by farmerrenton

Hi all, to clarify, the trailer needs to be road legal to transport it to our base on the Isle of Mull (just trailer, no boat on it), then it will be used to recover the boat onto hard standing and may, sometimes be towed to our workshop (short distance by road) by either a Landrover or Tractor (dependent on weight and distance)
Cheers
Simon

Have you weighed your boat?

The only rig I have seen that can tow over 3500kgs legally is the trailer for the American Phantom which has air brakes and is towed by a 7.5 tonne truck, everything else needs an HGV unless someone knows better?

You might as well get a "yard trailer" such as an American one as suggested above delivered and use that locally only - it would be much cheaper than buying a 100% legal one you can't use legally with the boat on it IMHO!

farmerrenton · 15 September 2012, 11:04

Hi Cookee, the boat was weighed when it was delivered (on a trailer), it came in around 3.2 tonnes (boat and trailer) from memory (emptied of all coding kit, but did have a good 100 ltrs fuel still in the tank), can't remember what make of trailer or whether it was ali or not, however, it was towed with a landcruiser.

My plan is to tow it around the harbour with a landrover, if it needs to go further then it would probably be towed by a tractor.

Cheers

Simon

Rogue Wave · 15 September 2012, 14:49

if it was towed by a Landcruise it was an illegal tow. The trailer would have weighed at least 1 Ton which chucks you into 4.2 ton on a 3.5 ton li,mit.

My lovely trailer is made by Degraff and has a 5400 kg gross capacity but will only take a 4100kg load my boat is 2.9 tons so I hire a 7.5 ton tipper to tow it anywhere

cheers stu

Large American trailers also come in with Disc brakes

willk · 15 September 2012, 15:16

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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

if it was towed by a Landcruise it was an illegal tow. The trailer would have weighed at least 1 Ton which chucks you into 4.2 ton on a 3.5 ton li,mit.

Rogue Wave is Wrong.

SW Boat Transport · 15 September 2012, 15:32

If you are correct and the total weight of boat and trailer is 3200kg, then you will be perfectly legal on over run brakes.

SW Boat Transport · 15 September 2012, 15:34

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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

if it was towed by a Landcruise it was an illegal tow. The trailer would have weighed at least 1 Ton which chucks you into 4.2 ton on a 3.5 ton li,mit.

My lovely trailer is made by Degraff and has a 5400 kg gross capacity but will only take a 4100kg load my boat is 2.9 tons so I hire a 7.5 ton tipper to tow it anywhere

cheers stu

Large American trailers also come in with Disc brakes

Even behind a 7.5ton tipper you will be illegal, unless you have air brakes fitted and confirm to all the other rules regarding HGV trailers (which are far more stringent than for trailers upto 3500kg).

farmerrenton · 15 September 2012, 16:46

To clarify, the boat sitting on the trailer it was delivered on weighed in at a total of 3.2 tonnes, I'm pretty certain that the 'load' was well within the legal limit of 3.5 tonnes total weight.

So, has anyone got a trailer for sale?

beamishken · 21 September 2012, 12:18

I had a similar problem a few years back with a sports cruiser which was 3.4 tonnes on the trailer without any gear I bought a 2 axle streamline trailer (essex based i think)with bunks instead of rollers as they are lighter & 2 axle instead of 3 as the two axle trailer has a higher legal payload as its lighter
we did several long trips for holidays with this rig we carried as much gear in the landcruiser as we could and kept a weighbridge ticket for the boat & trailer in the glovebox in case we got stopped
imho triple axle trailers are more bother than they are worth numb to shunt around and 50% more brakes and bearings to fail after being dunked in the sea & you will have a bigger choice if looking for second hand

Rogue Wave · 23 September 2012, 22:59

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This is pricey and wont sell so I'd open a dialog and see if he'll take an offer of 2k which it is definitely worth. If this is a Degraff then it's the same model as my big trailer but I have pads instead of bunks.If you want a twin I think fillipflop on this forum might have a couple of 3.5 ton twins at his yard and he's a good guy to deal with.

Beamishken made a good case for a twin trailer but I love my triple axle cos the extra wheels really help keep the load steady But my 8.4 open Rib is a lot heavier than yours.

I have to be Honest and say that I would expect a 10m cabin rib to come in at more than the weight of yours but I guess I have been around heavy commercial Rib for too long.

I still think youd be better off with a Yankee Aloominum trailer.

farmerrenton · 01 November 2012, 23:54

Got a trailer and thanks to Tony at Seafari.

Boat now at workshop and undergoing good clean, service and the fitting of some new toys.

For those interested, the total weight of boat (200 odd litres fuel still in tank but stripped of liferaft, anchors etc) and trailer was.......3.297 tonnes......within limit to pull with landrover but we used the tractor anyway!

Thanks for the advice