Fuel Rebate for commercial users

Jono Garton
06 November 2004, 14:27
I am just filling in my fuel return, can anyone tell me where to find out, how much the current duty is on unleaded.

Please :eh:

tim griffin
06 November 2004, 15:44
Hi Jono
it currently stands at .471p per litre
or you can call HM Customs and Excise on0191 2011 752

Jono Garton
06 November 2004, 16:36
cheers tim

codprawn
06 November 2004, 18:30
Hi Jono
it currently stands at .471p per litre
or you can call HM Customs and Excise on0191 2011 752

Wish we could pay 36p per litre at the pumps - and remember that price is WITH the current high oil prices!!!

David Hickman
06 November 2004, 18:53
Check that it is normal unleaded and not ULS Unleaded. I am e mailing you the HM C & E list.

tim griffin
06 November 2004, 20:37
Wish we could pay 36p per litre at the pumps - and remember that price is WITH the current high oil prices!!!

Hi Codprawn i pay 99p a litre at a waterside fuel berth so getting the excise duty back does help keep the overheads down.

codprawn
07 November 2004, 03:18
Check that it is normal unleaded and not ULS Unleaded. I am e mailing you the HM C & E list.

All unleaded is now ultra low sulphur

quinquarimarine
08 November 2004, 18:25
Codprawn is right. There is only ULS petrol in the country (no unleaded at all) and thus you must fill in the ULS section of the HO50 form.

This confuses many as what you buy at the pumps says unleaded.

Dont forget to claim the VAT on the petrol and then the duty bring the litre price to under 20p.

There is a thing called adval in Customs and an inspector with little knowledge of duty rebates may challenge the amount of VAT you claim. If you think about it you are claiming the amount of VAT on the whole price (ie. Pertol cost plus duty).

The good news is that in the case of petrol this is quite acceptable ie. you claim the full VAT on the full purchase price.

Other rules can come into play such as to claim Duty it is expected (though I am not sure whether it is in statute) that you are VAT registered. From that to zero rate your passenger supply you are expected to have a vessel licence for a minimum of 12 passengers.

And for those who use diesel and may not be very interested on these points then you may be interested to know that there is 4p duty on red that you can claim.

Cheers

John
www.quinquari.co.uk

Jono
08 November 2004, 19:18
Is this a question of labelling not catching up? Does fuel sold as ULS now mean 50ppm (as oposed to the "old" 150ppm) or is it the fledgling 10ppm fuel that is becoming available (and compulsory by 2009) against the 50ppm..?
Lawyers, step forward... :D

quinquarimarine
08 November 2004, 20:22
Jono,

You lost me on this one.

When I was at Uni many years ago ppm was parts mer million. I can only guess you refer to lead levels rather than octane. Please enlighten or post that I am simply being dull.

In respect of your claim then if you are claiming for several boats as we do then give me a bell (office 01437721911 or workshop 01437721113) and I will explain the prefered method of HMC&E and it will also save you a lot of paper.

Cheers

John
www.quinquari.co.uk

codprawn
08 November 2004, 22:19
The new EU standard limits sulphur in petrol to less than 50ppm - in fact most British refineries are already at about 10ppm and have been for a while.

Jono
09 November 2004, 07:55
The in fact most British refineries are already at about 10ppm and have been for a while.

Excluding the biggest one? Fawley? Don't think so...since they haven't completed their de-sulphurisation plant yet.. :)

Jono
09 November 2004, 09:17
If I understand right……..


“In the Budget earlier this year an inflation-only increase of 1.4p per litre for sulphur-free petrol and diesel was delayed until September. Ultra-low sulphur petrol and diesel was announced to rise by 0.5p above inflation (a total of 1.9p/litre), again delayed until September.

Old duty rate New duty rate
Ultra-low sulphur petrol 47.10/L 49.02/L
Sulphur-free petrol 47.10 /L 48.52/L

U/L sulphur = 50ppm and
Sulphur free = 10ppm”


Therefore have HMC&E taken this into effect in new published rates? If you are claiming back for ULS before 2005 (under the three year rule?) is ULS now taken as 10ppm not 50ppm?
Confused?… I am…… :eh: If you fill up in So'ton area is your fuel ULS or sulphur free? :D

codprawn
09 November 2004, 17:15
Excluding the biggest one? Fawley? Don't think so...since they haven't completed their de-sulphurisation plant yet.. :)

Well they have been supplying 50ppm petrol since Oct 2000 - don't know about the 10ppm stuff.