plotter screen scratches

IBWET
12 May 2008, 07:53
Has anyone found a way to rectify/or replace if possible,the non reflective coating on the screen of a plotter?

Someone has tried to help and rubbed the screen with dried salt on it scratching it. I've not found any threads here covering the solving aspect, only the "I'm pi**ed off that it's happened" bits.

Any help would be appreciated.

Bigmuz7
12 May 2008, 08:31
Has anyone found a way to rectify/or replace if possible,the non reflective coating on the screen of a plotter?

Someone has tried to help and rubbed the screen with dried salt on it scratching it. I've not found any threads here covering the solving aspect, only the "I'm pi**ed off that it's happened" bits.

Any help would be appreciated.

Yes I've had mine replaced, and it was very expensive on my Raymarine C120 £350 odd if I rember correctly, its a factory job as the unit is hermetically sealed. Mine was caused by a light & fluffy 'Largs Yacht Haven' foam key fob :eek: hanging from the key switch and rubbing on the screen leaving a semi circle of buff area on the display :@

IBWET
12 May 2008, 08:52
Yes I've had mine replaced, and it was very expensive on my Raymarine C120 £350 odd if I rember correctly, its a factory job as the unit is hermetically sealed. Mine was caused by a light & fluffy 'Largs Yacht Haven' foam key fob :eek: hanging from the key switch and rubbing on the screen leaving a semi circle of buff area on the display :@

Hi Muz,

Who did you deal with for the repair?, £350 :eek:

my unit is sealed in flush, would be a pain to dig it out..thats in addition to the 350 squids.

Bigmuz7
12 May 2008, 12:45
Hi Muz,

Who did you deal with for the repair?, £350 :eek:


Just my usual stealers .. ehh.. I mean dealers FYM over in Grangemouth.. Although I now have the details of Raymarine direct :thumbs: Luckily my mount was really easy to pull out of the console, and I refitted it easy enough to save getting robbed for that aswell :rolleyes:

I mean its a cosmetic thing but damned annoying to have to put up with, and the thing is,.. its the way the sun bounces off the marks on the glass that makes it look much more prominent, in darker light its not so bad, I now use the cover on mine all the time when not in use, as its basically in an open console, almost on a flat surface, and quite susceptible to damage. If salt water gets on it, I use a glass cleaner spray first, then, a soft duster to wipe away the solution.

Trickdog
12 May 2008, 14:41
I didn't know those screens were so delicate. I know it won't reinstate the anti-glare coating, but I have heard good things about this product http://www.renovomarine.com/products/p_wpolish.php.

Might be worth trying to get the scratches out before parting with £350 for a replacement?

MtStPipier
13 May 2008, 01:31
Aye, I rubbed some of the anti-reflective off mine as well. Damn annoying. Garmin wants US$350 to reapply said coating. Better than the price you guys are seeing, but still seems ludicrous you can't do anything at home for cheaper. I've found several polishes for scratches, but none to reduce glare.

Limey Linda
13 May 2008, 02:23
Sorry, there is no fix for a scratched AR coating. I spent some time in the optical industry. No different than if you scratched your camera lense or sun specs: same stuff. The harder the coating the more exspensive and it is the single most expensive part of producing a LCD screen. Takes hours to apply in a sputtering oven which is a batch process and not automated yet that I am aware of.

IBWET
13 May 2008, 07:56
I didn't know those screens were so delicate. I know it won't reinstate the anti-glare coating, but I have heard good things about this product http://www.renovomarine.com/products/p_wpolish.php.

Might be worth trying to get the scratches out before parting with £350 for a replacement?

Thanks for that,I've got some good optical cleaner designed for camera's and bins,I'll have a go and post the results.

IBWET
13 May 2008, 08:11
Sorry, there is no fix for a scratched AR coating. I spent some time in the optical industry. No different than if you scratched your camera lense or sun specs: same stuff. The harder the coating the more exspensive and it is the single most expensive part of producing a LCD screen. Takes hours to apply in a sputtering oven which is a batch process and not automated yet that I am aware of.

Well funnily enough I called Raymarine Direct,who saids send it in and we'll have a look at it? they are presumably well versed on what the issue and how it's repaired, i'm making that assumption from the number of people with similar issues.

Sending it down will be a pain , No one mentioned £350....so will it be " that will £350 sir " after it's arrived.

I'll try some optical cleaner first... :D

£350 that'll be soon nearly half a tank of fuel..:rolleyes:

sunrider
13 May 2008, 11:41
Garmin resurfaced a screen roughed up from polishing with a dirty cloth on a 3210C I sent to them and charged $50 about 7 months ago....results were perfect and had it back within 10 days.

MtStPipier
14 May 2008, 13:34
I may try one of these peel and stick Vikuiti products from 3M designed for LCDs. Gets good reviews from the nerd crowd, and is a fraction of what Garmin quoted me. Worth a shot perhaps.

DJL
14 May 2008, 15:10
I was planning to put screen protectors on my Garmin 3005's when I got them - wish I had now.

I've just ordered two invisible shields from www.zagg.com (http://www.zagg.com) - hopefully it will stop them getting any worse.

Bigmuz7
14 May 2008, 16:32
Those are good ideas .. so long as you can get them applied without any bubbles:),... ? and the extra layer doesnt change the refracted light, thereby changing the anti glare effect ? could be worth a shot

DJL
14 May 2008, 17:12
The Zagg stuff is really easy to apply without bubbles - it comes with a water based spray you wet the plastic with before applying. IMHO out of all the screen protectors i've tried they are the best.

Not sure about the antiglare effect though or how robust they will be in the marine environment.

Will post results once i've tried them

Bigmuz7
14 May 2008, 19:35
Will post results once i've tried them

;) You go first then :thumbs: I dont fancy another 350 beer vouchers for a bit of glass measuring 10x6 :eek:

DJL
20 May 2008, 11:41
;) You go first then :thumbs: I dont fancy another 350 beer vouchers for a bit of glass measuring 10x6 :eek:

Just applied one - screen looks like new, all the marks from the salt are hidden, antiglare doesn't appear to have been effected.

Really easy to apply too.

Won't get to try it on the boat for a few weeks though.

Hightower
20 May 2008, 18:14
There doesn't seem to be any sheets of the stuff for sale on their website, just brand specific kits.

What and where did you get yours DJL?

DJL
20 May 2008, 19:48
Andy - they sell a kit for the Garmin GPSMAP 3005C's that I have. If they don't have your device listed they apparently will make a kit for you.

You might be able to get them to send you a sheet - not sure how easy it would be to cut though.

bedajim
21 May 2008, 06:33
Mine turned up this morning £21.95 inc express delivery for 8" screen cover :D

They have an agent in Manchester "Envious Ltd"

Box has a screen cover, bottle of liquid and an installation squeegee (bit of rubber)

Instructions
http://www.zagg.com/company/application_instructions.php

I'll see how I get on with it later

codprawn
21 May 2008, 11:24
Andy - they sell a kit for the Garmin GPSMAP 3005C's that I have. If they don't have your device listed they apparently will make a kit for you.

You might be able to get them to send you a sheet - not sure how easy it would be to cut though.

They do kits for laptops - I am sure a sharp scalpel would do the trick.

DJL
23 July 2008, 20:02
Quick update..

They haven't fallen off yet, even with copious amounts of water on them.

The screens are much easier to read now, not quite as good as a new screen but much better than before - even in direct sun light. The damage to the anti-glare coating is almost invisible.

I'm still very pleased - I was only expecting the protectors to stop the screens getting worse, not improve the situation.

PeterR
23 July 2008, 20:40
DJL did you get yours fromEnvious ltd if not where.Thanks

Jeff
25 July 2008, 14:56
Based on DJLs recommendation I also bought two from ZAGG in the States ... and they arrived from a UK distributor
I am howver very pleased - you can now wash off the screen safely without risk of scratches or marking. It doesn't significantly affect the screen viewing - just a slight "honeycomb" effect from some angles.
Would buy again if I bought new equipment
Jeff

If anyone here wants to buy some, they sent me a 20% one use discount code > 1st PM is welcome to have it

BruceB
25 July 2008, 22:54
I just bought screen protectors for both my plotters before I start using the boat based on the comments here.
Although I bought them from Zagg in the US off their site the delivery is to be from within the UK within 4 days for free.
For two protectors delivered it was about £11 in total.
For those who have Lowrance the units are pretty common in size as the cases are common on lots of their units, both of mine are listed to fit completely different plotters but by a little searching I know they fit my two exactly as the screens are the same size/shape.
They are cheap enough that you could probably buy a larger one and cut for smaller screens or other makes.
Hopefully by applying them at the start I will avoid scratches altogether and they will work as well as people say.

Hightower
20 December 2008, 14:45
Just purchased one of these Zagg screen protector kits.

Are people still getting good results from their applications?

BruceB
20 December 2008, 17:55
Mine don't look as if they are about to come off yet............

Chris
21 December 2008, 10:35
I cant see my Lowrance Plotter listed on their site. Is it possible to place a custom order somwhere?

Is there somewhere I can order from in the UK?

BruceB
21 December 2008, 10:43
Most Lowrance plotters have the same couple of screen sizes throughout the range. My GMAP 5300 or my LCX27 aren't listed but if you check the screen sizes against the lowrance models listed you should find one that will fit exactly.
Mine were bought from the US but sent from the UK and arrived within a couple of days at minimal postage. Unfortunately I cannot remember the company name offhand.

Hightower
21 December 2008, 11:17
I cant see my Lowrance Plotter listed on their site. Is it possible to place a custom order somwhere?

Is there somewhere I can order from in the UK?

Chris, you could always try contacting them direct with screen size made available for them to quote for. Mine cost $11.50 after a discount I got from Jeff and placing the order with their American based website. Also the delivery was free, so I guess it's being posted within the UK.

If you want a 20% discount code, they have sent me two by Email. First come first served basis.

Chris
21 December 2008, 14:56
Most Lowrance plotters have the same couple of screen sizes throughout the range. My GMAP 5300 or my LCX27 aren't listed but if you check the screen sizes against the lowrance models listed you should find one that will fit exactly.
Mine were bought from the US but sent from the UK and arrived within a couple of days at minimal postage. Unfortunately I cannot remember the company name offhand.

Thanks Bruce the 6500c is the same screen size so I have placed my order.

Chris
21 February 2009, 12:42
What a waste if time!!

Placed an order on the 21st of December and after not receiving anything by mid January I sent an email asking when I could expect delivery.

Zagg got back to me and said they would send out another as the first should have arrived.

Still nothing by 20th Feb so sent another email to which Zagg suggested I pay to have a tracked shipment, or they would send refund.

I have asked them to refund my money.


Does anyone know of the UK distributor as I may contact them directly.

Chris

bedajim
21 February 2009, 14:39
What a waste if time!!

Placed an order on the 21st of December and after not receiving anything by mid January I sent an email asking when I could expect delivery.

Zagg got back to me and said they would send out another as the first should have arrived.

Still nothing by 20th Feb so sent another email to which Zagg suggested I pay to have a tracked shipment, or they would send refund.

I have asked them to refund my money.


Does anyone know of the UK distributor as I may contact them directly.

Chris

Mine turned up this morning £21.95 inc express delivery for 8" screen cover :D

They have an agent in Manchester "Envious Ltd"

Box has a screen cover, bottle of liquid and an installation squeegee (bit of rubber)

Instructions
http://www.zagg.com/company/application_instructions.php



:thumbs:

Chris
21 February 2009, 16:12
Is Envious Ltd where you bought your Jim or did you order it on the Zagg website?

bedajim
22 February 2009, 05:16
Is Envious Ltd where you bought your Jim or did you order it on the Zagg website?

Ordered it on the Zagg website but it came in a couple of days so i assume from Envious if I've still got the box I'll check

Jim

bedajim
24 February 2009, 19:34
Ordered it on the Zagg website but it came in a couple of days so i assume from Envious if I've still got the box I'll check

Jim

Can't find the box must be at work i'll check tomorrow :eek:

Chris
24 February 2009, 20:27
Can't find the box must be at work i'll check tomorrow :eek:


Cheers they have told me that they are going to refund me and ultimately I would like to get hold of one so if its possible to buy in the UK that would be good!

bedajim
25 February 2009, 06:59
Cheers they have told me that they are going to refund me and ultimately I would like to get hold of one so if its possible to buy in the UK that would be good!

Found the box it came Royal Mail recorded

It says from
Zagg Europe Ltd
Trafford Park
Urmston
Manchester
M45 7LJ
UK

Jim

Downhilldai
25 February 2009, 12:14
Zagg would be low down on my list of suppliers.

bedajim
25 February 2009, 12:46
Zagg would be low down on my list of suppliers.

Is that an alphabetical list :p

Downhilldai
25 February 2009, 18:33
Is that an alphabetical list :p

Yep :D

chris123
27 February 2009, 15:53
Well, I ordered a couple of Zagg covers from the Zagg.com website on Sunday and they turned up on Wednesday with a Manchester post mark (standard unrecorded Royal Mail delivery)

Cheers

Chris