Another stereo thread

Nos4r2
24 May 2007, 19:31
Well... having gone down the cheap mp3 player/power amp/speakers route I've discovered that the cheap MP3 player doesn't seem to have enough output for the amp.

I don't really have enough room in the console to cut the hole to fit a normal stereo so....


Any suggestions?

GED
24 May 2007, 19:38
Well... having gone down the cheap mp3 player/power amp/speakers route I've discovered that the cheap MP3 player doesn't seem to have enough output for the amp.

I don't really have enough room in the console to cut the hole to fit a normal stereo so....


Any suggestions?

fit a stereo in side the console and operate it by remote ...loads for sale on the av marine site

JABS
24 May 2007, 20:13
Well... having gone down the cheap mp3 player/power amp/speakers route I've discovered that the cheap MP3 player doesn't seem to have enough output for the amp.

I don't really have enough room in the console to cut the hole to fit a normal stereo so....


Any suggestions?

Does the amplifier have a 'low level' input? It needs that to operate successfully from a MP3 player.

If it only has 'speaker inputs' you could make up a pre amplifier.

I would be interested since that is exactly what we intend to do!

Also, Marine AV make an amplifier specifically for this application but it is pricey.

Tony

Biggles
24 May 2007, 20:20
Have a search for the thread Nasher did on exactly the same set up as you have at the moment Matt. He got the MP3 player and a cheap amp to work together well.

NR.

Biggles
24 May 2007, 20:21
This might be it.

http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12093&highlight=nasher+mp3

Nasher
24 May 2007, 20:36
Biggles

Hi.

I believe it was one of your threads I hijacked towards the end with more details of my set up, not the one you found.

Matt
I am using the low level input on my amp.

Nasher

JABS
24 May 2007, 20:50
Nasher,

Can you give us a description of your system?

This sounds like what we want to do, amp, speakers and ipod input.

How much power do you have? Do you have a sub? How do you control volume. Have you tried a personal radio>

Is it loud enough??

Thanks

Tony

Biggles
24 May 2007, 20:57
Cheers Nasher,

Its this page.

http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16305&page=2&highlight=nasher+mp3

Nick R.

Nos4r2
24 May 2007, 21:13
Cheers!

I'm going through the low level input-it's got a gain control on it. It seems there just isn't enough even with the gain control at full.
I'm using a 50w per channel amp but I can hold a conversation indoors over what I'm getting out of it.

Biggles
24 May 2007, 21:30
:cool: Matt,

Have you thought about cutting the hole in the side of the console ? That might be worth following up if you have to buy a proper cd player. I think Tim M got a bargain (As he always seems to do) on Ebay recently.
Or you could hide the AV marine set away and use one of their small extensions on you console. They also do IR remotes but I think they are line of sight only. Plenty of options but it all starts to add up money wise.

I'm still looking for speakers. Just can't justify proper wakeboard speakers that look quite flimsy at £300 plus and then the cost of an amp on top.

I need to speak to Jimbo. Apparently he's flogging speakers now as well. Its getting like 'Only Fools and Horse's' now in Pompey :D

Do you think the next time I pop into haslar marina I'll find one of RIBNETs finest flogging stuff out of suitcase =)

Nos4r2
24 May 2007, 21:48
I'm actually thinking about fitting an old car radio/cassette player under the seat now (it helps that I've got a couple of the old Ford ones lying around to experiment with). It occurred to me that it's very easy to plug a cassette adapter in which does run ok from the same cheap mp3 player I was going to use.

The radio/cassette hooked up to the amp plus the pair of 120w weatherproof speakers I bought should hopefully do the trick.

Biggles
24 May 2007, 22:11
I did have a quick look at Car Cd players on Argos tonight but couldn't think of a way of linking it up to a MP3 player. Never thought about a cassette adaptor. Good idea.
Just one thought that has come to my notice. You might want to think of some way to control the volume that's accessible. Stop starting as we sometimes tend to do on our outings means one second the sound is fine because your blatting along and you've got the volume up loud. The next you stop for some reason and the music is too loud. Becomes annoying. I need to get one of those wireless receivers when I've got some spare money

Jimbo
24 May 2007, 22:15
I need to speak to Jimbo. Apparently he's flogging speakers now as well. Its getting like 'Only Fools and Horse's' now in Pompey :D

Am I? This is news to me, but I'll sell you anything given half a chance.

I do have an Eagle Loudhailer to hook up to a VHF for sale - but not sure that's what you're after!

Nos4r2
24 May 2007, 22:16
I was actually planning on velcroing a small waterproof box to the console with the mp3 player in-that way I can control volume via that.

<edit> Feck! Wireless jobbies are 8 quid in my local garage...what a good idea!

Nos4r2
24 May 2007, 22:19
Am I? This is news to me, but I'll sell you anything given half a chance.


Does that make you Delboy and if so, who's Rodney? :D
According to Jon Brooks you sell waterproof speakers... what can you get?

Biggles
24 May 2007, 22:19
Am I? This is news to me, but I'll sell you anything given half a chance.

I do have an Eagle Loudhailer to hook up to a VHF for sale - but not sure that's what you're after!

Will that work with my Icom 421. And I've just got a hand held loud hailer.

Biggles
24 May 2007, 22:19
According to Jon Brooks you sell waterproof speakers... what can you get?

Yeh.

Biggles
24 May 2007, 22:21
I was actually planning on velcroing a small waterproof box to the console with the mp3 player in-that way I can control volume via that.

I've velcroed my MP3 player to the dash. But its not waterproof in any way. If it rains it gets wrapped in a plastic bag and chucked on the console. Means I can still access the buttons. But not very well at 30 Knots :cool:

In fact I've found that I can do virtually bugger all at 30 Knots on my boat :D

Jimbo
24 May 2007, 22:26
Yeh.

Ah. Yes, he's correct. Mainly for VHF's, but can do them for marine audio. Price list is in the office, but I'll get back to you guys tomorrow!

(PS - I can't be Del Boy. All my gear is guaranteed, warranteed, and is direct from manufacturer/importer. I may be able to get you a good price, but the gear aint dodgy!)

Jimbo
24 May 2007, 22:28
Will that work with my Icom 421. And I've just got a hand held loud hailer.

I don't know, but I will check. Not sure the 421 has a loudhailer option - certainly the equivalent Standard Horizon has one, but on the Icoms you'd have to have an m505 or 606 if I recall correctly. Will confirm.

Biggles
24 May 2007, 22:31
I don't know, but I will check. Not sure the 421 has a loudhailer option - certainly the equivalent Standard Horizon has one, but on the Icoms you'd have to have an m505 or 606 if I recall correctly. Will confirm.

I think your right. I thought maybe something new had come on the market that would work with the 421.
I might be interested in a very loud but small flush mounted waterproof VHF extension speaker to add to my 421 so I can hear the damn thing when i'm zooming along :V

Nos4r2
24 May 2007, 22:48
(PS - I can't be Del Boy. All my gear is guaranteed, warranteed, and is direct from manufacturer/importer. I may be able to get you a good price, but the gear aint dodgy!)

:D That's exactly what Del Boy would have said :p

Biggles
24 May 2007, 22:53
:D That's exactly what Del Boy would have said :p

LOL.

Hugh Jardon
25 May 2007, 07:52
i went down the route of the mp3 player to an amp but it just does not put out the power i wanted to give enough volume at speeds

put in one of those av marine headunits then to the amp and this works a treat, not that expensive really either

bedajim
25 May 2007, 07:59
Hi

I got my Boss marine stuff from here

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Boss-Audio-Systems

head unit, amp(1000w) & speakers

it's loud

James

Nos4r2
25 May 2007, 08:04
What mp3 players do people use? I'm wondering if it's not just a symptom of using cheap ones.

I'm using one of these with a 2gb SD card:-
http://www.suresmooth23.com/suresmooth23/SD_card_Mp3_black/SD_card_Mp3_Player_blk_g.jpg

which is utter crap but it's ok through headphones-and one of the Tesco 256 mb ones which is better but still not very good.

bedajim
25 May 2007, 08:10
What mp3 players do people use? I'm wondering if it's not just a symptom of using cheap ones.

I'm using one of these with a 2gb SD card:-
http://www.suresmooth23.com/suresmooth23/SD_card_Mp3_black/SD_card_Mp3_Player_blk_g.jpg

which is utter crap but it's ok through headphones-and one of the Tesco 256 mb ones which is better but still not very good.

Mine is as cheap as possible for when it gets wet, i think its to do with the connections/settings on the head unit + amp i had to play with them to get it right

Tim M
25 May 2007, 11:16
I got a Boss Marine system as you all know. It worked really well to start off with and then got water inside it and now doesn't do anything but play random bits of cd tracks very loud. The only way to turn it off to to turn all the electonics off or hit it very hard. Suffice to say it will be going back shortly for a replacement. The next one will be mounted in one of those waterprooof front/case things from Marine AV.

When I installed the actual unit I was quite aware that it might not be as waterproof as they claimed it would be. I contemplated on installing it under the bench seat and then just having the remote control on the console. Thinking about it now that's what I should have done; the wired remote seems a lot more waterproof than the main unit. Unforntly I can't really do that now because I'll be left with a huge great hole in the console.

Nos, if your car stereo doesn't work then as someone else says get a unit with a remote and hook it up inside the console with the remote on the outside.

Jimbo will tell you an interesting story about leather jackets if your after someone to call Delboy :D

Biggles
25 May 2007, 11:59
Matt,

I use an old MP3 player, its only 128 MB, and it works okay but it runs through a Marine AV Head Unit.

NR.

Nos4r2
25 May 2007, 12:08
I guess the key is having the head unit there then.

I'll have to try the old Ford stereo.

Cookee
30 May 2007, 17:03
We have an IPOD into a hidden Marine AV unit, a hidden sub woofer and some quite small 3" speakers which give an amazing amount of sound. I would try the amp with another MP3 player, but I suspect the amp is faulty?

If you ask Marine AV for the same setup BananaShark has then they tell you what works!